The One Where Ramos Renews and De Gea Arrives - The Final Summer Transfer, Rumors & Lies Thread

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  1. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    #576 mymy33, Aug 22, 2015
    There is no guarantee DDG will be damaged goods if stays though, that is a worse case scenario. Hell, LVG could be gone a quarter of the way through the season or Romero could sustain a longterm injury, etc. the season is long. And if DDG really desires to play here why doesn't he speak up? Because he's afraid of being ostracized by LVG? Well that's already happening so what is there to lose? As for balancing the books, we've been able to do that because we have been offsetting our purchases with sales which we haven't done this summer as of yet and DDG would push well over 100ME with nothing to offset that yet. If we get DDG, someone besides Navas is leaving methinks. I won't cry if DDG comes for *gulp* 30ME+ but with Navas and Casilla he isn't a priority THIS SEASON and we can wait.
     
  2. Anon.

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    #577 Anon., Aug 22, 2015
    Currently, it doesn't look good for DDG and where his head is at from a mental perspective. I don't see him starting ahead of Romero any time soon, the guy's kept three clean sheets in all of the their PL games so far. Barring a unlikely long-term injury or some hideous form, which I wouldn't hedge my bets on, I see Romero starting almost all of their games this season.
    My point around our spending over the last few years is more to do with the fact that it puts us in good stead this year if we want to break the 100m Euro mark. It's not as if we've had problems doing it in the past and taking into account Euro inflation/value, it is far from an exuberant limit for a club of Real's size.
    And to be honest with you, I do see him as a major upgrade on both Navas and Casilla, but I have a feeling that if the both of them are our keepers for this season, perhaps the competition might improve them.
     
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  3. 4x4s

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    #578 4x4s, Aug 22, 2015
    Romero isn't that good though and by the time he makes a colossal blunder the heat will be on Van Gaal from inside and outside the club to drop this stupid experiment of his. We've seen it happen before.
     
  4. Anon.

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    #579 Anon., Aug 22, 2015
    He's not world class agreed, but he's not awful. LvG will stick it out with him.
    I've watched all of their opening season games and United are not set up to let in many goals this season.

    Personally, I think we're going to sign DDG before the transfer window closes. Something will give and we'll meet in the middle with United in terms of fee.
     
  5. RealMadridista

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    #580 RealMadridista, Aug 22, 2015
    I hope we pay 13 mil buy out for Ceballos.he will be worth loooot more next year
     
  6. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

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    #581 Anon., Aug 22, 2015
    Yet another CM with good technique?
     
  7. RealMadridista

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    #582 RealMadridista, Aug 22, 2015
    He looks extremely promising....i think we are trying to pull of barca here.get the Spaniards all together..which woulr be nice
     
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  8. white_raid

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    Oct 17, 2006
    #583 white_raid, Aug 22, 2015
    If we don't sign De Gea now, I'm not sure we'll want him next year. A season on the bench for a constantly improving player is like getting a serious injury, and sometimes players never recuperate their old form, such as Torres or Falcao. Having a world-class goalkeeper is a must.
     
  9. Zidane05

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    #584 Zidane05, Aug 22, 2015
    Not really. Barca won the triple with two decent keepers. Juve reached the final with an aging above average keeper. We won the CL with an aging average to above average keeper. The Rijkaard/Pep Barca won many titles with Valdes being their keeper, as did Sir Alex's Man Utd. with Barthez/Van der Sar who were good to very good, but not world class.
     
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  10. 4x4s

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    #585 4x4s, Aug 22, 2015
    Goalkeeping is not about many goals, it's the one stupid mistake that people remember. If he drops one and the team lose a 6 point match against direct competition while De Gea is on the bech, Van Gaal will have to come up with some answers, especially if the team is not gettign the results people demad. Let's not forget just how much money they've spent.
     
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  11. 4x4s

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    #586 4x4s, Aug 22, 2015
    Both Torres and Falcao suffered injuries that had an effect on key attributes of how they play.
     
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  12. -Fifth CharM-

    -Fifth CharM- BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2007
    #587 -Fifth CharM-, Aug 22, 2015
    Surely one would think that there would be relevant case point examples to such claim, no?
     
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  13. -Fifth CharM-

    -Fifth CharM- BigSoccer Supporter

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    #588 -Fifth CharM-, Aug 22, 2015
    A teams style and defense often shields a goalkeeper and that is what all of those teams have in common - but once those two fail then it is time for the keeper to step up; and that is what those keepers do. Van der Sar was very much world class, Valdes despite his reputation was a very good goalkeeper, and Buffon despite his age maintained a high level of excellence.

    Having a great keeper today means one that will win you vital points in crucial matches. Bravo did it for Barca . Oblak did Atletico. De Gea did it so many times for United that he was their player of the season and the the reason they're in the CL. We did not have a great keeper last season and in crucial matches it cost us.
     
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  14. Digital

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    #589 Digital, Aug 22, 2015
    So was Iker "great" the season before?
     
  15. Crimson

    Crimson BigSoccer Supporter

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    #590 Crimson, Aug 22, 2015

    @-Fifth CharM-
    His control in tight spaces and through balls at the u19 tournie were amazing.
     
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  16. -Fifth CharM-

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    Sep 12, 2007
    #591 -Fifth CharM-, Aug 22, 2015
    No, because not all teams that win trophies do so because of a great keeper. Some times teams manage to reach far in cup competitions with an average to decent keeper. Liverpool won the thing with Dudek, AC Milan with Dida, Porto with Baia etc. Casillas was not great. In fact we won the final despite him, because he was no longer Saint Iker. The one that would win us points despite our terrible defense back in the day.
     
  17. -Fifth CharM-

    -Fifth CharM- BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2007
    #592 -Fifth CharM-, Aug 22, 2015
    What position does he play?
     
  18. sleepyvato50

    sleepyvato50 Member+

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    #593 sleepyvato50, Aug 22, 2015
    CM.
     
  19. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

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    #594 janos audron, Aug 23, 2015
    Yeah, but still nothing special!

    :laugh:
     
  20. Anon.

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    #595 Anon., Aug 23, 2015
    Taking into account how stubborn LvG is, I'm not sure if an odd mistake from Romero clears the path for De Gea. On top of that, I'm sure LvG will be reluctant to stick on a 'keeper that hasn't played competitive football for a prolonged period of time and who's head is probably just not in it. Nevermind the fact there is a "mistake risk" attached to DDG too.

    Rooney's impotence up front is going to be United's main concern for a while...
     
  21. Vector-SS

    Vector-SS Member+

    Mar 18, 2007
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    #596 Vector-SS, Aug 23, 2015
    First time I see this kid play and he surely is anything but average, especially for someone who just turned 19.
     
  22. HZinho

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    #597 HZinho, Aug 23, 2015
    It seems Alexandre Pato is being offered around in Europe. Such a shame his career got wrecked by injuries. That was a very nice player to see. Hope he gets somewhere, because from what I understood he was quite disappointing in Brazil.
     
  23. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    #598 YOUNGSTARS87, Aug 23, 2015
    FYP
     
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  24. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    #599 mymy33, Aug 23, 2015
    People were foaming at the mouth when we signed Navas, you remember "the best keeper in La Liga" (and maybe the world the way some of you were trying to pimp him) last summer. I don't believe he suffered any longterm damage sitting on the bench last season and that he is at least as good as Bravo. Casilla in his own right is a solid goalkeeper as well (I actually prefer him to Navas). Of course I prefer DDG to both but it's not like the two we have, for one season anyway, are like Victor Valdes circa 2007 or something.
     
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  25. HZinho

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    #600 HZinho, Aug 23, 2015
    Read rumours back in the day that he liked to party, but never knew it was that serious. Thanks for correcting me! :thumbsup:
     
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