The On-going Never-ending Brexit Story Part Four

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  1. argentine soccer fan

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  2. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    First!
     
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  3. rslfanboy

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    Section 26
  4. argentine soccer fan

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    Here you go…
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    Oh,

    errrr….never mind.
     
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  5. superdave

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    The Grim Reaper from Argentina is having a career day.
     
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  6. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Hoovering down old threads like Maradona in a niteclub bathroom.
     
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  7. Happy sixth Brexit anniversary.
     
  8. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    My current thinking is that if Starmer gets fined by Durham police and then resigns, Johnson will call a snap election before Labour have chance to select a new leader.
    He's desperate, with the select committee starting shortly and more stories coming out about his behaviour with Carrie while foreign secretary.
     
  9. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    And what about the 999/1000 universes where Starmer doesn't get fined? I still think Johnson is desperate enough for a snap election.
     
  10. lanman

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    Aug 30, 2002
    Yeah, but we'll probably be waiting a bit longer for that - December again maybe, to try an supress turn out. I think that in the unlikely situation of Starmer resigning over a fine, then he'll call an election within days.
     
  11. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Deputy Chief Whip has gone, but getting drunk and groping people is apparantly perfectly acceptable as he will not be having the whip removed.



    Pincher has had to have a minder at any events to stop him getting drunk and doing this sort of thing.
     
  12. lanman

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    Aug 30, 2002
    The press giving more time to Angela Raynor going to the opera than Johnson being caught getting noshed off in his office while Foreign Secretary.
    Sums it all up really.
     
  13. American Brummie

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    They can't risk another by-election. So out goes another constitutional guardrail.
     
  14. lanman

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    Aug 30, 2002
    If they can't risk Tamworth, with it's 43 point majority.....
     
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  15. lanman

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    Aug 30, 2002
    Sums up the current state of the Tory party. More scandals than the Major government, and that's just from the PM alone.

     
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  16. lanman

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    Aug 30, 2002
    Now this is a swing.

     
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  17. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    That's not tactical voting. It's tactical voting Rewards Card all ten punches.
     
  18. lanman

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  19. American Brummie

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  20. The Jitty Slitter

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    This is savvy politics IMO

    Attack the Tories where they are "strongest", on the basis of botched trade - which plays into the Tories own messaging that the trade deal is bad.

    Labour doesn't need to think hard about this - just promise that you would negotiate a raft of business and voter friendly treaties.

     
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  21. American Brummie

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    "We'll do X better, Y new, and Z competently" -- all I want to hear any Labour MP say. Except Thornberry she's the wild card you need.
     
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  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    Yep. There is no need to talk about remain stuff.

    Just promise better deals and point to how Boris is saying his own deal is shit.
     
  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Baby steps. No need to say where it will eventually lead - just that you'll do it better than the current mob. We all know it will end up with closer alignment and likely rejoining the CU and SM at some point, but no there's point in spelling out any timetable for it as it will just happen over time once the realists are in charge.
     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

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    It's remarkable how the answer is always just "BELIEVE". Hague is convinced Starmer is just too downbeat, and Brexit just needs more EBJT patriotic lion spirit

    But acceptance of Brexit will need to be more than grudging. Voters will want, particularly after the hard economic times now developing, a sense of an energetic plan for the future that makes the most of our national advantages.

    Even the government, packed with the original proponents of Brexit, has not succeeded in conveying such a plan to the public and the world. This is a source of mounting frustration to business leaders, puzzlement to foreign observers and disillusionment for voters. People are completely used to the idea that in all aspects of life you have to make the best of a difficult situation or a second-best option. If we quit a job, or fail to buy the house we always wanted, we pick ourselves up and get on with making the best of it. Isn’t it time, they say, that we did this with Brexit, particularly the people who wanted it?

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...7?shareToken=2ab73a8e1d4c3601dfe0deb22e85d53a
    These clowns don't seem to unrderstand that they just punched lots of medium and small businesses direct in the face?

    "make the best of it" is delusional
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    Because they don't exist! This remains one of the ultimate Tory delusions
     

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