and you think pulling a trigger and dropping a bomb is solving something? There will always be terrorists which why a war on terror with people going into the middle east and shooting it up isn't going to help anyone
Shockingly ( ), I agree with you. It's your jabs at those people who haven't signed onto PNAC or who take the time to try understand the world rather than scratch their caveman armpits and throw stones that I have a problem with.
Somebody always win. Imagine if the world chose to undertand Hitler and why he wanted to kill all the Jews and why he wanted to conquer all of Europe? Imagine if US tried to understand the maniacal, suicidal Japanese who would not surrender even after their cities were carpet bombed? Now, that's your solution. My solution is PEACE, but PEACE through FORCE. The only way to defeat lunatics is to kill them, not understand them.
You don't go in there and piss them off more and they obviously aren't rational so you can't talk to them. Terrorists do not make up the majority of Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia or any country in the middle east or any country in the world. The people have to do something to say that this isn't OK, but going in there and bombing them obviously isn't making anything better. If the politicians in washington are saying everything's great and everyone's happy and it'll all be over soon and the soldiers are coming home saying the exact opposite, I'm gonna start to get a bit skeptical of the people who are "controlling" the situation who get to go home to their big houses and comfy beds at night.
No, your comparisons (as dissected 100million times on BS) are not valid. Search Google for the War on Drugs to see how successful this kind of war will be. It will never end. We need to ensure that in our process of catching and killing terrorists that we do not spawn new terrorists. The suicide bomber is only briefly dangerous--by definition, he goes on only one mission. The AQ recruiter, however is far more dangerous--he recruits an endless supply of suicide bombers and we give him ammunition. We can frame our message in a way that can be seen and sympathized with by the average Middle Easterner--and believe me, most of them are already sympathetic. Terrorists have killed more of them than of anyone else. A full understanding of the ways in which this should proceed is not weakness--it is stength and wisdom.
HOW ABOUT WE JUST LET THEM ********** US IN THE **********. THEN WE CAN GET ON OUR KNEES AND GIVE THEM A NICE ********** WHILE WE'RE AT IT. WHO CARES IF THEY'RE ANGRY, THEY CAN STAY ANGRY ALL THEY WANT!
They obviously don't do that either. They probably think they're smarter than us since they can blow stuff up without us knowing until it happens
If they stay angry they're gonna keep blowing things up. They don't blow stuff up because they're happy
Your mom and her knitting club ? Or perhaps the murderous vile savages that perpetrate terrorist acts ? Which do you think I mean
We stay the course we are on, and continue to fight. Still yet to hear your solution. It is ok if you don't, because I will just take you as the average liberal who criticizes everything but has no solution for what they are criticizing.
It's fine to be pacifistic on a personal level, but it simply doesn't work on an institutional level. It is also unethical to advocate martyrdom on a national level as well unless you have achieved unanimity on that point.
Relax dude. Wrong thread. There's a "kill all muslims thread" that we obviously aren't in. I think "the murderous vile savages that perpetrate terrorist acts" is a pretty good definition for "them".
We have to understand why anyone would choose to follow such a person. That's exactly when they did surrender. My close, personal friend Sun Tzu says you're wrong here. It is much easier to defeat an enemy you understand than one you don't. I don't care why Osama and AQ are doing all this. They're crazy. I do care why they're getting support, and how they're getting it. If we don't want to understand that, we really will lose, and that's simply unacceptable.
I second DynamoKiev_USA's request to vivzig! vivzig: What would you do? Rather than me saying why Bush is right, tell us what you would do different.... What?