The Official Said Haji Thread

I’m less worried about Haji - seems like he’s on a development path but it won’t be comparable to Jackson and that’s ok.

I’m a little more concerned about Fuentes. He doesn’t seem to be getting as many minutes. He’s also very young so there’s time.

 

I forgot he's only 18 - yes way too early to worry about anything.

 

I think he was meh, instill think he's unproven. But keepers are vastly different then field players. There's 10 spots vs 1 spot. And keepers don't really become elite until there 29-35 these days. JT is still very unproven.

 

I want any player to do well regardless of the team they are on, but I just don't think he's going to fall the wayside of thousands of players do, into the abyss because they don't impress (insert coach) at the time. But his age helps him out, he will probably be a reserve team guy for us.

I remember once upon a time people wanted Jay Ayers and Kip Colvey to play.

 

Ayers was good, until he got severely injured. Cut the guy some slack.

 

I very much forgot about his injury.

Unfortunate he and Ben Parry never got there moment to shine. If I recall, and @bsman can probably add to it, Parry was quite good but got sick in Mexico and had half his intestines removed .

 

I got to see a very early edition of the ‘08 Quakes play against a preseason USL Timbers squad up here. I very quickly identified some players who would or might have turned good, and several who were crap. We had a forward named Dwight. Big guy, and fast. I was hoping we’d keep him, at least for a few more run outs, but we didn’t. Curry and Hatzke both looked like crap. Ryan looked good. And Ayers was really solid.

Clearly, I disagree with a lot of coaches on their assessment of players. Some of the guys that I like but the coaches don’t go on to play very well for another team.

I think that all coaches have players that they like for no apparent reason, and players they don’t like that they should.

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Yes and some guys go on and suck even more ass. Like Kip Colvey who played him self out of Colorado.

Both Hatzke boys sucked Nick and Matt. Curry was trash, Scholster was trash too. Lars Lyssand also had another runout with us in 2008 and he sucked ass as well.

 

Really hope this kid worked hard this offseason. I want to see if he is able to take the next step and press for some serious minutes.

 

There were a couple of posters who were all upset that we didn't keep Kip. Fun times...

 

Well, he was much better than Qwiberg, and having not seen him play a bad game as a Quake, I can't say definitively that we shouldn't have kept him, as LB depth at least. I had no data to suggest that we should get rid of him.

Turns out that he had other priorities in life, and didn't want to fight the pro soccer fight anymore. We can debate about whether or not he was good enough. I didn't see him play in CO, I can only go on what I saw of him as a Quake.

 

Kip was in Colorado under his old New Zealand nats team coach, Anthony Hudson. Hudson was willing to play him for New Zealand, but, Kip struggled to get minutes in Colorado, so, I guess even Hudson felt Kip wasn't really MLS regular quality. But, then Hudson didn't prove to be MLS quality either.............

 

Kip sucked. He struggled to get minutes in Colorado under a coach who used him with the National Team... in a very small pond/talent pool Kip is good, in the land of the sharks, he is a jobber at best.

 

Once again, I can only tell you what I saw and how I processed it. Your mileage may vary.

In my view he was from fine to good or even at times very good whenever I saw him play with the Quakes. There is no reason for me to believe he would be otherwise until I see it at least one time. His rookie year he was thrown into a starting spot right away due to injuries, and he did fine. Looked like he was going to get more playing time under Leitch and had a really good game in USOC against Seattle(?), but he had an ill-timed injury right after that. Tough break there. I don't know if he would have ever "made it" in MLS. He decided he wanted to pursue things other than pro soccer.

 

Yeah I can agree might have been good. Many good young guys were wrecked under the Quakes/Dynamo organizations under Kinnear.

Mike Chabala and Corey Ashe we're about the only guys who Kinnear developed. Maybe Kip could have had a better shot under a different team. But he just joins the long list of good college guys like Ustruck, Hayden, Michael-Hayden, Ramirez, Rodriguez etc.

 

I think he just didn't want it badly enough in the end; soccer wasn't necessarily the most important thing in his life. He knew it was going to be a slog, as a kind of fringe MLS guy. And he wanted to do other things - something more stable in terms of income and residence, etc. It's not for everybody. And sometimes you need to get a little lucky with a break to get you over the hump. It's possible if he didn't get injured about the time Leitch came on things might have turned out a little differently for him and the Quakes.

Here's an article about his retirement with some relevant quotes.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/footb...lvey-announces-shock-retirement-from-football

 

Kip had a chance to prove himself worthy when he played in Reno and he was terrible. He barely tried, and when he did, he was awful. The Quakes cut him for good reason, and then his New Zealand coach couldn't even find a reason to give him more time. Enough about Kip as he was past his time with San Jose ages ago.

 

It's possible he was having motivational issues at that time, questioning if he wanted to stick with pro soccer. But I'll say it again. I didn't see him play a bad game with the Quakes. It's hard for me to be convinced he would have been a "bad player" for them since I did not see it actually, you know, happen. Granted I didn't see him play a lot of Quakes games, but probably around 5, and he always looked pretty good, and a few times really good. That's not to say that it proves anything. It's just that I can't really get completely behind "Kip sucks!" since I never saw it - with the Quakes anyway.

FWIW I saw Yueill play a few times with Reno and he looked pretty average. So it's not always entirely linear.

 

I don't disagree (well I don't know about "really good" but "pretty good" seems right), but it's "around five games"... Talk about a small sample size. That's like when certain people around here insisted JJ Koval was good based on a handful of games, despite all subsequent evidence to the contrary. Or Mike Fucito before that... based on what I'm not exactly sure.

You have the strangest obsessions... Kip Colvey has been out of professional soccer since 2018. 2018!! It's now... (checks calendar)... 2021. He's probably selling insurance by now. Or maybe he joined Koval in dental school. At least Adam Jahn, mediocre as he is, is still being paid to play soccer!

Edit: physician assistant apparently

 

It's not an "obsession". I didn't bring up Colvey. Someone trashed him, and made fun of people who thought favorably of him. I have simply stated that I did not see him play poorly for the Quakes. Then I got attacked for it, and simply defended my position. You may want to ask the Colvey trashers why they are so obsessed with it.

I agree that the sample size is small. But we're not talking about goals or assists or even crosses. I'm looking at possessions, and there were probably a total of say a couple of hundred in total in the games that I saw. So in that sense the sample size is not that small. But sure, if I saw him play more I may have come to a different conclusion. But I'm not even concluding that he is good. I'm merely saying that I did not see evidence of him being bad in the games that he played with the Quakes. So I am unable to agree that he was "bad", not having actually seen it myself.

As for Colvey being out of soccer, I've gone over that multiple times. He saw that it was going to be a grind. He had other priorities in his life. Everyone's different. I'm not making stuff up, and this is not just based on that article but also based on some additional information I received from people who know him very well.

 

Yes, but, as Jazzy has mentioned (many times in fact ), Kip had an unheard of 6 key passes in one half of a USOC game for the Quakes. That is something he can always tell the grandkids.

 

Well I haven't mentioned it all in this thread, but now that you mention it, yeah, that was pretty great. You don't see that very often! I was standing near the sideline watching the Quakes attack. He was on fire! And really the whole team was. That was early in Leitch's reign, possibly one of the first few games.

 

Here we go!!

Will the New Hampshire native get any decent minutes with us this year?

He’s got some wheels, and he does try to combine with his teammates. I want to see him get some more time just because I want to see what he can do. That and, most of our team sucks.

GO Quakesfans!!

- Mark