The Official John J. Fisher ownership thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by xbhaskarx, Mar 30, 2019.

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John Fisher

Poll closed Oct 30, 2019.
  1. should spend more money

    20 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. should fire Fox and/or Fioranelli

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. should bring in additional owners

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  4. should sell the team

    11 vote(s)
    34.4%
  5. is not the problem

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. is doing a great job!

    1 vote(s)
    3.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they will get #NotMyPresident to pardon Sepp Blatter too ;)
     
  2. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yes, nothing would give MLS a better look than bringing on a guy convicted of a felony that involved bribing a public official for a gambling license. That is exactly the kind of image the league wants to promote.

    Plus, Fisher is worth more than DeBartolo, anyway. He ain't selling.
     
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  3. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    A Cincinnati player was charged with two felony counts in the past 72 hours, and he's still on the team. But their coach is gone for saying Jehovah.

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/fc-cinc...attocks-faces-felony-charges-in-pennsylvannia

    MLS is fine with felons. It's blasphemers they cannot abide.
     
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  4. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This follow up espn article explains mattocks’ felony insurance fraud.



    And this MLSPA release indicates Jans’ behavior should not be trivialized

     
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  5. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There must have been Witnesses.
     
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  6. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I'm not trivializing Jan's alleged behavior by pointing out that he has not been charged with a felony, whereas someone still on the team has.

    And the MLSPA statement is, in a word, trivial. No specifics. And it is contradicted by the FC Cincinnati press conference, as reported by Miki Turner over on MLS N&A.

    If MLSPA wants to be taken seriously by me, they will provide specifics to back up their bald assertions.
     
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  7. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Witnesses to what?

    There must have been probable cause to support the felony charges.
     
  8. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Compare the ample detail in Jeff Carlisle's article about the facts surrounding the felony charges to the lack of detail in the MLSPA statement about the sketchy circumstances surrounding the coach's departure.
     
  9. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jehovah Witnesses. Geez, Don.:rolleyes::D
     
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  10. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I didn't suggest DeBartolo would buy it, but he could grab Fisher by his lapels, prison-style, and tell him in no uncertain terms that he sucks at being a team owner... ;)
     
  11. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Good one. :)
     
  12. SalinasQuakesFan

    Mar 27, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Wouldn't one have to have served "prison time" to be able to know how to do that?
     
  13. Antonio2020

    Antonio2020 Member

    Nov 28, 2016
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Apparently, Don Garber wants "big city teams to be bigger deals." Also refers to San Jose (Bay Area) as a "top 10-TV Market" that isn't measuring up. You think John Fisher is listening?...
    (Philly Inquirer, 2/19/20)
     
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  14. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I discussed this on the Other Teams Results thread. Garber does not say the Bay Area is a top 10 TV Market, the reporter does. And it's true. But, nevertheless, Garber undoubtedly sees the Quakes as a small market team, because he lives in a Big Apple bubble.

    https://www.inquirer.com/soccer/don...ter-miami-20200219.html?__vfz=medium=sharebar
     
  15. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    If by “small market team” you mean small team in a potentially big market then yes, I agree. The Bay Area has the potential to be the biggest market in MLS but it has to be done right. Quakes have been a small fish in a massive pond pretty much consistently since say around 2008.
     
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  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Garber doesn't see it your way. He couldn't find San Jose on a map if you tied him to Dionne Warwick.

    New Yorker view of world.jpg
     
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  17. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    :ROFLMAO:

    Surely he knows enough to know that the Bay Area includes SF and dozens of smaller towns.
     
  18. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If Garber thought San Francisco was a big city, he would try to place a team there.
     
  19. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    I bet these guys know damn well how awful Fisher has been for San Jose. And the potential here.


    Don’t forget they picked San Jose to host the first ever MLS game, they’ve seen World Cup games here, the US men & women, tons of exhibition games and so on, I’d bet he has a pretty good grasp on the situation here and when they’re not busting a gut, they know Fisher is a drag on the league as well as the growth of soccer locally.
     
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  20. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    "These guys"? Garber was not around when San Jose hosted the first MLS game. I did see Garber at Buck Shaw, though, in 2008. That made such an impression on him that he preemptively announced in Fall 2012 that the Supporters Shield-winning Quakes would not be allowed to host MLS Cup in their own stadium if they made it that far.
     
  21. Antonio2020

    Antonio2020 Member

    Nov 28, 2016
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    DG, you should have posted The Philadelphia Inquirerer piece in this thread originally; seems more relevant to ownership than to the other teams results thread (IMHO ;)). That said: as much as San Jose is an afterthought on the national scene and remains (unfortunately) in SF's shadow, I guarantee you Garber knows all about us and the potential for this market/team. Agree wholeheartedly with Quakes05 on this one.
     
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  22. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    #522 Quakes05, Feb 19, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2020
    Garber is all about growing the league and he’s been doing that by leaps and bounds in recent years. Then there are the teams that are content to hobble along at or near the bottom every year. He has to get those teams going, he can’t afford to ignore them, they’re holding everyone back. Other owners are probably not thrilled about that either, it dulls was the compete factor and bores people at a time when the league is trying hard to grow, there’s a WC coming and all the fiscal considerations.
     
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  23. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Here's the thing: Garber has said things about and acted to correct course on large markets like Chicago (sending in Nelson Rodriguez to babysit a transfer of ownership) and LA (shutting down Chivas USA and replacing it with LAFC), and New York (bringing in a second team to compete with Red Bulls without any real prospect of a stadium, six years on now), and even in Montreal (publicly dissing ownership). Even in a "small" market" like Columbus, Garber manipulated things to try to relocate the team to Texas. Sure he did the same in San Jose, but that was 15 years ago, before Fisher. What has Garber said or done since to make anyone think "Garber knows all about us and the potential for this market/team"?
     
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  24. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    I think they think MLS is too small for the Bay Area.

    Garber knows this is one of the biggest markets but he also know the Quakes are primarily attracting people from San Jose.

    Sure they could spend big bucks to attract the rest of the bay but Fisher doesn’t want to spend big and probably feels MLS in its current state isn’t worth spending that much money (e.g. it’s not sustainable to spend).
     
  25. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If Garber felt that way, he would be pushing for a team in San Francisco. Instead, he begrudgingly green-lighted one in Sacramento.
     

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