The Official 2024 Copa América thread [R]

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  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you think your eye test is more accurate than the actual statistics?
     
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  2. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They want Berhalter's head because of how we played in this tournament? The Bolivia game we created chances that should have been converted, most notably Pepi's two point blank misses. game should have easily been 4 or 5-0. How is Brehalter to blame for that?
    The Panama game we played down a man from the 20' minute. If not for Weah's moment of idiocy we are likely taking 3 points from that game. How is Brehalter to blame for that?
    We went pretty much toe to toe with Uruguay, a very good team and they score on a rebound off a save that maybe Turner could have pushed away better, and not to mention the dubious non-offside call. Again, how is Behalter to blame for that?

    Now, I am not suggesting there isn't cause to dump Behalter, I just don't put the Copa 24 failure squarely on his shoulders.
     
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  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Just saying what I see. I’m not trying to be "accurate" with "% or time opponent with the ball is pressed within 2 seconds". When I watch the USMNT I see a good deal of pressing, counter-pressing, and ball-winning. I don't see that as a weakness. And maybe, just maybe, our relatively low number had something to do with the fact that we played about 30% of our minutes with 10 men.
     
  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #129 xbhaskarx, Jul 4, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2024
    Maybe they want Berhalter's head because he's got 7 wins 1 draw and 6 losses since he was rehired? Do you think that's good?

    I was at the Jamaica game in Dallas... down 1-0 with seconds left until a Jamaica own goal bailed him out... without that fluke his record is 5W 1D 7L with his most impressive win being what a friendly against #64 Ghana who are a complete disaster these days but we remember them as being decent at World Cups decades ago? Or is it beating #62 Uzbekistan? #76 Oman? #99 Trinidad who he subsequently lost to? Bolivia was the worst team at Copa America and literally can't win away from home so it can't be his only Copa America win... pretty sure they haven't won a game at any tournament in multiple decades.

     
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  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah, if we played clearly terribly in the tournament I could see the calls for Berhalter's head. But we played OK. To me it's more of a borderline call, and US Soccer is going to have to make it.
     
  6. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Both the American Outlaws and Sing for 90 mentioned the Copa America 24 failure.
    2. Did you not read this part of my post? "Now, I am not suggesting there isn't cause to dump Behalter, I just don't put the Copa 24 failure squarely on his shoulders."
     
  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I didn’t realize that in the Copa America there is no overtime and they are going straight to pk’s!

    Argentina lucked out
     
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  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  9. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Remind me: Which top 20 team have the USMNT beaten under Berhalter?
     
  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    :rolleyes:
     
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Maxime Crépeau goes from goat to hero!

    Oh Canada!

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    Good job!

    USA should fire Berhaler and hire Jesse Marsch!
     
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  13. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Venezuela is FIFA ranked 54th and didn't Canada score all of their 2nd goal in the tournament tonight?
     
  14. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    FIFA rankings are meaningless and obsolete the moment they are posted.
     
  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Well the point is that Venezuela is not a top team, nowhere near Uruguay.
     
  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I also think FIFA rankings are a joke.

    You have the USA is ranked #11 by FIFA and they crashed out in the group stage to Panama who is #43.

    The USA doesn't deserve to be ranked so high and Panama also should not be that low.
     
  17. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You do know that the US played most of the Panama game a man down, right?
     
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  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #143 falvo, Jul 6, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2024
    So, what, they are the USA!

    Many teams play with a man down and they still manage a win or even draw.

    They didn't even seem to have any fight in them against either Panama or Uruguay and put forth a pathetic display.

    I didn't see anything from the USMNT that impressed me in their last 2 games.

    Meanwhile....

    CANADA IS HEADED TO THE SEMIFINALS IN ITS FIRST-EVER COPA AMERICA TOURNAMENT [​IMG]

    HEARTBREAK FOR VENEZUELA [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Venezuelan fans are classless turds, I'm glad they went home sad.
     
  20. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With both [​IMG] and [​IMG] now eliminated from the Copa América :( and with me having had no reason to watch/follow the Euros at all this year :(, I suppose that all of my soccer concentration can now solely focus on [​IMG].

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! [​IMG]
    GO USA!!! [​IMG]
    VAI BRASIL!!! [​IMG]


    -G
     
  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Uruguai vence!

    Boa noite Fogo de Chão!

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  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Ugh, another scoreless draw with penalties. All these great players, Mbappe, Ronaldo, Vinicius Jr., Messi, Kane, etc. and no one can score a goal? Heck Messi even missed his PK. Sad.
     
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  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Colombia put FIVE past Panama to cruise their way through to the Copa América semi-finals [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Uruguay’s Nahitan Nández was given a straight red after this dangerous challenge on Rodrygo following a VAR review.

    It took him over three minutes to leave the pitch as he was arguing the referee’s decision.


    [​IMG]
     
  25. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of guys…
     

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