The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. ShortyMac

    ShortyMac Member+

    Barcelona
    Apr 10, 2011
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, Leo!!!!!!!!!! Beautiful. What an amazing thing to watch him play.

    Player of the Tournament again, WC winner.
     
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  2. Barc@4ever

    Barc@4ever Member

    Barcelona
    Jul 21, 2020
  3. Barc@4ever

    Barc@4ever Member

    Barcelona
    Jul 21, 2020
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    Barc@4ever Member

    Barcelona
    Jul 21, 2020
  5. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  6. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Spain 2010 is still the zenith for me in terms of being satisfied.
    But Messi 2022 comes damn close. Just a shame he wasn't still with Barca.
     
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  7. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  8. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  9. inswinger

    inswinger Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2001
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    The missing piece q51nf4zqlq6a1.jpg
     
  10. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Some of records Messi has broken or tied this World Cup:

    - Most G+A in history of World Cup
    With 2 goals this final, Messi has 21 Goals + Assists in World Cup, suprasses Pele's 20 G+A

    - Most goals scored in World Cup, Copa, Euro, Africa championship
    Messi scores 25 goals in World Cup and Copa, ties with Ronaldo Fenomeno 25 goals.

    - Most assists in World Cup history, tied with Maradona (8 assists)

    - Most games played (26)

    - Most games with directly goal involvement (14).

    - Most games with at least a goal and an assist (4)

    - The first player to score in GS, RO16, QF, SF and the final since 1986 (when RO16 was introduced).

    - Most official MOTM (11 times).

    - Most official MOTM in a single World Cup (5 times).

    - The only player to win all MOTM in KO rounds (all 4 MOTM).

    - The first and only one to win World Cup Golden Ball twice, POTT twice.

    - Argentina's top scorer in World Cup with 13 goals.
     
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  11. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    This year...

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    So...
    With the award now presented in August instead of December, can this performance in Qatar carry over long enough for Messi to claim an eighth Ballon d'Or?
    How much will he need to do with PSG to boost his chances?
     
  13. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Easily especially if he keeps up the good form
     
  14. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007

    Also, highest ever dribbles at World Cup with 125 (Maradona 2nd with 105).

    And highest ever chances created at World Cup, with 75 (Maradona 2nd with 66).
     
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  15. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Not sure who'd win it, but I believe Messi and Mbappe will be in top 3. PSG probably will be divided into South American vs France camp lol
     
  16. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

    Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    There’s a high chance Messi will win his 5th CL. Messi-Mbappe-Neymar trio are in amazing form and PSG fixed their long term issue which was the midfield. Winning that WC will further boost Messi’s confidence. Mbappe is at his peak and he will be very determined to win the CL title now.
     
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  17. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Ballon dor now is a full season award. So yes, World Cup is the biggest boost. Not only he wins it but also wins with style and win in the greatest final in history.

    8 ballon dor. Beyond words.
     
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  18. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Messi 2022 World Cup must be among the best stories in history of football.
     
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  19. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Most major Player of the Tournament awards in NT

    4 Messi (WC22, WC14, CA21, CA15)
    3 Nasazzi (WC30, CA35, CA15)
    2 Ronaldo (WC98, CA97)
    2 Zidane (WC06, EU00)
    2 Pele (WC70, CA59-1)
    2 Seoane (CA27, CA25)
    2 Francescoli (CA95, CA83)
    1 ...
     
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  20. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Not only this tournament but the whole NT-career, the dramatical arc of not being "good enough", retiring, then resurrection like this. Perfect movie material, or series perhaps.
     
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  21. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #7796 Rattlehead, Dec 19, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2022
    Yep, its even more dramatic than MJ returned and winning another three peat.

    18 goals + 6 assists in 2022 for national team, 10 goals contribution at WC, at 35 years old. Bigger stats than his "prime" version.
     
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  22. Gilmango

    Gilmango Member+

    Jul 20, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All time World Cup goal contributions:
    [​IMG]
     
  23. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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  24. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Messi has 10 goals contribution in this competition while CR has 10 goals contribution across 5 WC. There's no debate needed.
     
  25. Gilmango

    Gilmango Member+

    Jul 20, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PSG has almost no French players it seems. Only Mbappe was in France's squad at the World Cup. Kimpembe would have been but was injured. Mukiele is a young defender they bought for RB Leipzig this summer for 10M Euros. Ekitike is a young forward on loan from Reims, and their 3rd string goalie is French. I'm sure there could be squabbles amongst the egos but not enough French guys who start to make it France vs. South America. Also tons of Spanish (5) and Portuguese (4) players, plus 2 important Italian players, hard to see all of them on the side of France or South America.
     
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