The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    89th minute
    Match against Valencia leveled at 2-2.
    Barcelona had to win to qualify for Champions League.
    The chilena completed Rivaldo's hat trick in that match.
    The circumstances, as well as the goal itself (from the edge of the penalty area!), is why it's one of the club's most iconic goals.
    Probably my all-time favorite Barca golaso.

     
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  2. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    His other 2 goals weren’t too shabby either . Probably the best hat trick I’ve seen given context and quality of goals .
     
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  3. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Rivaldo's hattrick is the best hattrick. The quality (first is great, second is better and third is out of this world), the context, the drama and Gaspart's celebration.

    Messi's best hattrick imo, is his first ever. 19 years old:thumbsup:
     
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  4. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Rivaldo had bowed legs, not as pronounced as Garrincha's, but enough to fool defenders when he dribbled and get the better of keepers when he shot. His shots produced a natural curvature with a lot of power.

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  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I bet Ray Hudson still required a change of underwear.
     
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  6. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Messi has same number of Trophies in last 5 Matches as Ronaldo in last 3 years [emoji88][emoji88][emoji88][emoji88]
     
  7. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Rivaldo's left foot was wicked.
     
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  8. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
  9. inswinger

    inswinger Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2001
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  10. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Career fastest and Ligue 1 fastest assist, 8 seconds.

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  11. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Messi - Neymar is so scary now. Argentina - Brazil combo is always something else.
     
  12. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    For my money, Ronaldo doesn't score in the 2002 World Cup final without Rivaldo's genius.
    First goal came from that wicked left foot you mention.
    Second off a great dummy set up.
     
  13. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Leads Europe Top 5 in dribbles and assists, at 35.

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  14. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Top dribblers in Top 5 leagues.

    29 Messi, Ligue 1
    16 Eze, Premier League
    16 Ejuke, Bundesliga
    13 Radonjic, Serie A
    11 Carvalho, La Liga
     
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  15. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    10 dribbles completed at 35 years old. He doesn't need pace to dribble. Sharp movement and passing, combine well with every one except Hakimi. Look like this guy doesn't want to pass.
     
  16. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Now leads europe in throughballs too

    12 Messi
    7 Neymar
    6 Sotoca
    4 Savic
    4 De Bruyne

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  17. Barc@4ever

    Barc@4ever Member

    Barcelona
    Jul 21, 2020
    #7567 Barc@4ever, Sep 14, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2022
    Messi became the first player to score against 39 different clubs in the CL.

    Also first player to score in 18 consecutive seasons.
     
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  18. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    5 goals and 8 assists so far this season.
     
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  19. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #7569 Bada Bing, Sep 15, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2022
    14+16 in the last 20 games.

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  20. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Messi now has 12 through balls in league. Most in Europe. 2 through balls per game. That's scary.

    A true number 10.
     
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  21. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Messi has easily the most throughballs in modern football, since Opta started counting them. If he keeps the pace for 2 per game he will brake easily his record of 56 in 11-12.

    Most throughballs since 09-10 in Top 5 leagues

    09-10 50 Ronaldinho (Messi 25)
    10-11 38 Fabregas (Messi 33)
    11-12 56 Messi
    12-13 48 Totti (Messi 13)
    13-14 25 Fabregas (Messi 12)
    14-15 34 Messi
    15-16 33 Messi
    16-17 20 Messi
    17-18 22 Neymar (Messi 18)
    18-19 31 Messi
    19-20 20 Messi
    20-21 20 Messi
    21-22 18 Messi
    22-23 12 Messi
     
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  22. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Most throughballs since 09-10 in Top 5 leagues

    345 Messi
    182 Fabregas
    165 Totti
    136 David Silva
    123 Alexis Sanchez
    110 Iniesta
    109 Zlatan
    108 Xavi
    105 Pirlo
    99 Özil
    93 Cazorla
    92 De Bruyne
    82 Cassano
    81 Neymar
    ...
    65 Cronaldo
     
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  23. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Ronaldinho with 50 through ball??? That's something.

    Anyway, Messi now
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  24. Danko

    Danko Member+

    Barcelona
    Serbia
    Mar 15, 2018
    Messi ridiculous as always! Where did you get this list?

    I'd love to see a leaderboard of other stats too like Key Passes, Big Chances Created, Dribbles etc. I have a strange feeling Messi might be leading all of them!
     
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  25. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Counted myself from whoscored.com. It's bit tedious, but free information. The list isn't complete, just the players that seemed to have the most. I think you can buy subscription from Opta if you want easily accessible information, not sure how much it's though.
     
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