The Jozy Shore - Keeping it Villarreal 9/10 in the 18 for Espanyol

It was reported Jozy had the stomach flu on Friday and didn't practice.

However, looks like he has recovered since he was among the 19 players called for the Sporting game

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Here's the list. I think Jozy has a big chance of making the bench, since he is the only fit backup forward. Of course Garrido can play some of his midfielders in a supporting striker role.

Porteros: Diego López y Juan Carlos.
Defensas: Musacchio, Joan Oriol, Capdevila, Marchena, Catalá, Gonzalo, Mario y Ángel.
Centrocampistas: Jefferson Montero, Cani, Santi Cazorla, Borja Valero, Bruno y Matilla.
Delanteros: Rossi, Nilmar y Altidore.

 

technically ronaldo should've scored a hat trick against real murcia a second division team. as long as you score it doesn't matter.

 

...except ronaldo shits on all of the defenses in the FIRST division. Jozy can hardly get a game there. It was a good goal by Jozy, but nothing special, considering the opponents.

 

Altidore got about 20 minutes against Sporting Gijon (Rossi managed to convert a PK in the 94th minute to draw, Villarreal playing a man down at that point). Not bad!

With Europa League Thursday, Copa del Rey next Wednesday, regular la Liga games on Sundays, and Ruben injured more playing time seem very likely in the near future.

 

http://villarrealcf.es/principal_n....cia=10848&idseccion=7&idmenu=90&idsubmenu=125

Jozy is (obviously) in the squad traveling to Thessaloniki.

 

He can hang out with his boy Freddy Adu!

 

Looked decent too. Made some strong runs, got involved etc. Never got the ball in a dangerous area, which Gijon did a good job preventing all game long. Villarreal's forwards had to drop deep to receive the ball. Jozy definitely looked like he belonged though.

 

Jozy apparently appeared in the press conference today, along with his coach.

The story's here:
http://www.villarrealcf.es/principal_n.php?nombreModulo=noticiasDetalle&idnoticia=10857&idseccion=7&idmenu=90&idsubmenu=125
any video?

 

translation from google

Altidore: "We played a lot in this game"

For its part, the American striker Jozy Altidore, who appeared with Garrison in the media, believes that Villarreal has much to gain and little to lose in this clash. "We played a lot in this game, because if we beat PAOK everything will favor to go round. If we can not win there will be more opportunities, but a win would leave us well positioned to move forward and be leaders of the group. "

 

http://villarrealcf.es/principal_n....cia=10869&idseccion=7&idmenu=90&idsubmenu=125

Jozy is one of 3 strikers in the 18 vs Athletic de Bilbao. The good news is that Marcos Senna is back and Musacchio doesn't have to play center midfield (badly) anymore.

 

If Altidore had any soccer advisors, he would ask to go to another team/league to at least establish his reputation.

VR is a totally finesse side again - perfect for Rossi and nearly useless for Altidore.

They are not using him to his capabilities and his capabilities ain't what the team resorts to.

He needs to go somewhere where teams play faster and more directly.

VR is probably a lot better off with a Joseba Llorente type, including Joseba Llorente himself.

 

To establish his reputation? This is perplexing. So Hull City is too physical and long ball in nature, and Villarreal is too finesse and play too much along the ground? Using him to his capabilities? So the capabilities he has at 20 years old are the capabilities he will have for the next 10 years, and he'll never improve or need to develop new aspects of his game? He needs to play faster and more directly? Why so he can develop his speed and fitness? Honestly, I'm trying to find one ounce of merit in this post and am struggling. Help me.

Jozy is an ideal situation at Villarreal. He is proving himself day and and day out in training and in Copa del rey matches at a very shrewd and technical club. By your theory, Jozy needs to hire soccer advisors similar to yourself to ship him to the SPL to play for Dundee United, where he'll develop playing a faster and more direct style of Soccer?

Am I close?

 

This is supposed to make sense how? He is 21-years-old. They can still teach him to play within their system, which is exactly what is happening.

 

I never said Hull was too physical and direct.

21 already.

Third year in Europe.

He is not developing to expectations.

Different strokes for different folks.

Shaquille O'Neal was never going to have the finesse game of Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

Fortunately, no coach asked Shaq to play like Kareem.

VR is asking Altidore to play like Nihat and Nilmar but that's not Altidore's game.

Use all your available brain cells. Even if you use your fingers to count the said brain cells.

Why?

Solely because it's a club in La Liga?

Proving to do what?

VR has a forward shortage, so he's getting emergency PT.

Once they have depth, they won't play him and, unless he goes to Malaga, no one will play the same style as VR.

So, what exactly is he learning?

That's right.

Scoring half a dozen goals, but more importantly starting in very game for Dundee or Kilmarnock will be far more useful for him than sitting on the bench at VR.

Except, he is a poor fit in that system.

And he can't play it like Rossi, Nihat or Nilmar have been playing it anyway.

All those guys are/were small forwards with an impeccable touch, timing, the flow of the game and finishing.

Manuel Pellegrini is a great coach but his system isn't well suited to guys like Altidore or, say, Kevin Davis.

And any hopes that Altidore would turn into even a poor man's version of Gonzo Higuain must be forlorn now.

Jozy's got to be realistic about what can do with his body and his skill set.

Playing in a Latin style soccer with a multitude of short passes isn't his strength any more than Stoke's long/high ball would be for Ronaldinho.

It's as simple as that.

 

What were your expectations for him by this stage in his European career?

How do you know what type of player Villarreal plans on molding Jozy Altidore into? His skillset and soccer brain are still developing. Why are you selling his development short based on the fact that he's 6'1 and built like an ox? Does this mean he should go to a club that focuses less on technique and intelligent build up simply because he doesn't have Rossi's body type? This is absurd and in my opinion incredibly narrowminded.

Who were the last great forwards to transfer from Dundee or Kilmarnock? I'm not being facetious, I simply can't name one.

I don't think Jozy's year at Hull was a waste. He probably learned a great deal from it, but that type of squad is not the type of team I want our most promising players developing at longterm.

I struggle to understand how you can find a problem with our 20 year old maturing Forward progressing at one of the top clubs in arguably the most technical league in the world. His consistent playing time will come when Rossi is finally sold. I push the panic button if by this time in 2012 he's getting the same amount of playing time. Give him time.

 

u guys who say he should be developing quicker, dont forget americans are late bloomers. clint demsey is 28/29 he is scoring like he hasnt done before in a season. edson buddle, landon donavan.

jozy is no gareth bale relax

 

Jozy learned a lot at Hull. His hold up play is immensely better than it was before he went there. But he'll never be a great target forward because he's terrible in the air and is still very uncomfortable with his back to goal. That's why it's better for him to be at Villarreal right now than some donkey SPL team.

Playing on the ground, using his speed, making runs off of similarly sized but slower CBs...that's Jozy's game. One look at his size and strength betrays that, but he's always been that kind of player. Learning better technique, touch and positioning at Villarreal will do more for him as a player than using his physical advantages in another league as a crutch for lack of the above.

He'll have to land a starting job somewhere soon, but getting 20-25 matches at Villarreal is plenty worthwhile at this stage in his career.

 

I'd like to see jozy go on loan in january. It seems he has learned quite a bit in spain and the coach seems to be fond of jozy now. Let jozy go on a short loan to some team in the netherlands, italy, or even england again. I am positive this time jozy will be more productive.

 

Spot duty in a top-5 La Liga club at age 21 is simply unheard of for an American center forward. He's at a higher level club-wise than most of our players, and he's getting on the pitch. He's not starting all the time, but he's obviously in their plans, as they continue to give him looks in key situations.

His only problem right now is his finishing. He's going to continue to get minutes in all competitions and continue to develop. If he can regain his finishing touch, he'll be fine. People panic way too early about our players. Jozy's situation at Villareal is really quite good.

 

Yup.

People need to sit back and enjoy his development.

 

Into being the black Kenny Cooper?

Joking aside, people want it instant gratification. Jozy is a 'project' in development. He is also on a Champions League caliber side.