The Impeachment Pool

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On what day (of the month of which year) does the U.S. House of Representatives vote - on the floor

  1. On or Before January 20, 2018

    8.7%
  2. On or Before January 20, 2019

    23.9%
  3. On or Before January 20, 2020

    10.9%
  4. On or Before January 20, 2021

    7.6%
  5. None of the Above - Donald Trump finishes out one or two terms of office

    48.9%
  1. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Is Hannity blackmailing Moones, and joining the Messican standoff?




    Also, Schiff, subpoena Sean!!!
     
  2. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possibly, yeah. A federal judge is only supposed to decide cases/controversies and not issue advisory opinions. So there can't really be any ruling on the assertion of executive privilege until it's actually asserted. This ruling was just about the Admin trying to assert a blanket immunity from complying with a subpoena.
     
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  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yoss, i presume you think this absolute privilege argument will be eventually shot down?

    It's not like the concept of exec privilege hasn't been argued before. IIRC from back in my day, the law was relatively settled.
     
  4. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Regardless of the story, that is a pretty cool picture. Would probably be even better in black and white.
     
  5. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An assertion of absolute privilege would more than likely be shot down. But I wouldn't say the law is settled, certainly not at the margins. The Nixon Watergate era cases were more about an absolute assertion, so the Supreme Court didn't have to get into the nitty gritty details --- say, the way a trial court judge would when someone asserts attorney-client privilege (I'm thinking in a big complex civil case, not criminal) and you compile your privilege logs, and the trial court conducts an in camera review to determine which assertions are legitimate, etc., etc., etc. Most of the time, the Executive Branch and Congress have come to an agreement about testimony, document production, before this sort of review would become necessary.
     
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  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tucker Carlson did not Hannity.


    Unless both did it.
     
  7. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hannity only admitted that he knows about Cowllusion...


    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/sean-ha...e-report-about-you-is-a-lot-of-outright-lies/

    “I’ve gotta to be honest, I know more about this than maybe you want me to reveal, so I will let you say it in your own words. I saw the report about you. I happen to know a lot of it is outright lies.”
     
  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Cascarino's Pizzeria BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Geraldo must be pissed that Hannity is Fox's participatory journalist now.
     
  9. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I think that's called "editorial distortion" in Chomsky and Herman's Manufacturing Consent. There are five features that I can't recall and don't have time to look up (though Jitty Slitter probably has it tattooed somewhere on his body). But that has a lot to do with the reason that Maggie Haberman is basically a White House stenographer.

    This isn't to say that the Times is a cavalcade of hacks. I think it was I.F. Stone who used to say there was always great reporting in the Newspaper of Record. It just wasn't goint to be on the front page.
     
  10. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Case in point: Wall Street Journal. Fine reporting and has done well on the impeachment coverage, but the editorial board is disconnected.
     
  11. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I know this will never happen but I dream of a newspaper with no editorial or op-ed pages.
     
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  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I think it was The Nation that used to have a regular feature where they'd quote a claim made in a WSJ editorial and then a passage from a WSJ news story that blatantly contradicted it. They'd have more than one a week.
     
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  13. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    One of my favorite pieces I ever wrote was an op-ed piece. It called out a university board member (Who was super high up at two auto companies), for stating that if he was looking at two resumes, the one with my alma mater wouldn't be regarded as much as say the one with Michigan State or University of Michigan.

    I had receipts, cited various studies about benefits of smaller colleges, compared him to an awful character in a novel, and claimed he was more or less out of touch. I got a lot of praise for it, managed to make a big shot auto exec look like a fool, and felt good. It's been ten years since I am still proud of it.
     
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  14. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ah, the good old days
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    We were more into Marshall McLuhan, but yeah - back in the days when I worked in guerilla advertising in the mid 90s, those ideas were influential because "the kidz didn't trust advertising" :ROFLMAO:

    Ironically that was also the sunrise of PR - to distribute messaging from a trusted source ;)

    IMO Maggie H represents the bill for 20 years of spin driven coverage.
     
  16. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I still read op-eds but I've lived long enough to where Charles Krauthammer went from being the worst columnist on any given day to the best. And this was due to no improvement in his opinions.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Remember when i had that crazy idea that Trump was at the centre of anti-semitic messaging around impeachment?

    How does "the jew coup" grab you? Just coincidence of course...

     
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  18. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    The worst is when local papers publish Letters To The Editors on their social media. So you get gems like "I Will Not Leave My Home Until the Town Removes The Parking Meters" or "The REAL Connection Between Taxes And The Nazis" or "The Illuminati Dug A Pothole On Washington Street."
     
  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But they did.. I saw them do it.
     
  20. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    On my street they made the squirrels do the actual digging
     
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  21. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Squirrels are not to be trusted.
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude, aren't wearing your mind control protection device? Freaking noob. Everyone knows that squirrels are just the image that the Illuminati project into your mind when they are performing their nefarious acts. If you had been wearing your mind control protection device, you would have been able to see the squirrels for what they really are... Ferrets..
     
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  23. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'd be curious to hear Jared's response should a reporter ask him this question, what with Jared being Trump defenders' Exhibit A to charges of racism.
     
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  24. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    You can get them for a reasonable price nowdays.
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  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No one wears those anymore. There are much more fashionable options.

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