The DeSantis Thread (aka Florida Man 2)

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    Yeah but Trump actually has struggled to raise money from the traditional big donors.

    See the Kochs who went in big on Haley. They realise Trump is not aligned with their horrific version of conservatism.
     
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  2. charlie15

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    This is so true. "The cruelty was pointless". That goon decided to use cruelty to further advance his political ambitions. I will never forget him using asylum seekers as pawns, flying and leaving them on Martha'sVineyard to score some political point with the maga base. Truly abject and inhumane.


    They say of Donald Trump, “The cruelty is the point.”

    For Ron DeSantis, we might amend that to say, “The cruelty was pointless.”

    Rarely in American politics has a civic leader, a governor no less, used his official power to marginalize, demean, and endanger so many — in the naked service of career advancement — only to fall so spectacularly flat.

    In the case of DeSantis, the Florida governor got trounced by Trump in the Iowa Republican caucuses. And despite his “Never Back Down” branding, DeSantis raised the white flag of surrender before having to face new embarrassment in the New Hampshire primary.


    They say of Donald Trump, “The cruelty is the point.”

    For Ron DeSantis, we might amend that to say, “The cruelty was pointless.”

    Rarely in American politics has a civic leader, a governor no less, used his official power to marginalize, demean, and endanger so many — in the naked service of career advancement — only to fall so spectacularly flat.

    In the case of DeSantis, the Florida governor got trounced by Trump in the Iowa Republican caucuses. And despite his “Never Back Down” branding, DeSantis raised the white flag of surrender before having to face new embarrassment in the New Hampshire primary.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ry/ron-desantis-pointless-cruelty-1234950793/
     
  3. charlie15

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    An other piece from Josh Marshall. I read the Times article as well and putting all those pieces together, TFG campaign took turn to humiliate and eviscerate De Santis. In typical bully's behavior, he didnt respond and count either. He was good at punching down at asylum seekers, black voters, LGBTQs communities etc but when punched repeatedly by Trump and his cronies, he took his beating in silences.

    I wanted to flag to your attention this piece in the Times about the end of Ron DeSantis’s campaign. It contains a lot of themes you’re certainly familiar with. But I found it striking. Because it cuts through a lot of the pablum of conventional news coverage about how Trump operates and what Trump is about. In short, it explains how Trump devoted a solid year to a ritual and often sexualized humiliation of DeSantis which reached its crescendo in demonstrating that DeSantis was — in the face of Trump’s assault — unwilling or unable to defend himself. That last point was key. To the extent Trump was making an “argument” in the form of a performative and cacophonous psycho-sexual assault, it was DeSantis who made the final case about himself.

    By taking it. By not fighting back. By making a fool of himself. By being, in the Trump right’s vivid degenerate phantasmagoria, a total cuck.

    I don’t want to make too much of this. The piece is under the rubric of a “Political Memo,” which is when the reporters step back from the pivot and thrust of the daily news to give a broader overview. But it suggested to me at least some shift in dropping the pretense of conventional news coverage for conventional politics and approaching the quite unconventional story of what is really on its own visceral and physical terms.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/raw-rancid-and-real
     
  4. Kazuma

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    That the GOP went after Madison Cawthorn with vigor after that orgies comment is quite telling.
     
  5. ceezmad

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    Those 12 million were illegal immigrants voting for Trump, source "many people are saying"
     
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  6. The Jitty Slitter

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    this is so true.

    PSA was also noting today that one candidate can’t really change national discourse. The GOP and right wing media carried Trumps water daily for 3 years since Jan 6 and this is the result.
     
  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Rotters all of them
     
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  8. Auriaprottu

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    This was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the post.. sorry


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