Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist Haaaaaaaaa come on man, you guys are definately no Rockys. Clubber Langs maybe, but not Rocky. The city of brotherly love resents the implication..
Re: Attendance: 9,306.. ESPN "F"ed us again. The MLS average on a weeknight is slightly north of 15,000, but Chivas only averages 10,700 (sans SuperClassico), which is only better than KC attendance wise.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist Yeah, the Chivas "USA" thing is funny. While soccer in America and MLS is finally starting to get it, there is one club holding it back like an anchor.
Re: Attendance: 9,306.. ESPN "F"ed us again. Thing is, somebody has to be below somebody, thankfully to the rest of us KC is at the bottom. However one thing that must be considered is how many times there have been a match in that stadium recently. Quite a few and that probably played a part in people's pocket books. The stadium also has fairly high prices I believe for tickets and it was a Thursday Night which means that it was a school night. That means 12,500 max right? So technically they were at something like 75% of capacity. Haha, I'm pulling for ya Chivas, I really am.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist I disagree. Chivas USA still has an amazing amount of potential. It's still early. Chivas USA now has another opportunity - to market itself as the scrappier, more working-class alternative to the Galaxy. I will say one thing though - the Chivas brand will eventually hurt them more than help. Go for the Latino market full force - sure, why not. But in the end, I just think keeping them Chivas-specific will keep them marginalized. I mean, look at all the crazy Tuzos fans that showed up for the SuperLiga - you think they are gonna want to put on those stripes?
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist No. It's based on the league's best record historically. That and the fact that DC has won ONE TITLE this millenium. LA has won 6 since 2000. Jajjajajajajaja! That's about as good as the Mexican't who bragged about how Mexico dominates the US in everything b/c some team beat an American team in the Little World Series. C'mon, dude. You're smarter than that.
Re: Attendance: 9,306.. ESPN "F"ed us again. No, with more than 1 month of advanced notice they are allowed to have full capacity at HDC on weeknights according to the Telefutura/Galavision announcers during the SuperLiga final. Chivas tickets are lower than Galaxy tickets.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist carlos, you are smart than that. number 1, DC's record is better than the Gals record historically. DC 174 wins 136 losses 51 ties. LA 170 wins 135 losses 52 ties. Close now, but DC's is still better. Wanna rethink your statement? Number 2, the "best record historically" crap is just that ............ crap. You don't get awarded championships for the best record historically. You get awarded championships for winning the championships. Even prior to this year, when LA had a slightly better record historically, they STILL had less Supporters Shields than DC United ....... and that is the one that gets you the hardware, not having better bad seasons than your opponents bad seasons. Number 3, what is this in this "millenium" stuff? You've either won championships or you haven't. The league hasn't been around since 2000. It's been around since 1996, and if you are going to look at the HISTORICALLY best team, you have to look at the entire record, not just the record during a period of time that you have chosen to cherrypick. And over that entire time, LA is clearly no better than 2nd in MLS. By the way, I assume that in those 6 titles for LA in this millenium you are claiming a Supporters Shield ........ if you are, you do realize that DC won that last year as well, right? Finally, go back and read what I said. Clearly, my reference to the u-17s and reserve were meant as throwaways. Without them, it changes nothing in the equation, that DC has been the more successful team over the course of the life of MLS. Having said that, I'm sure that if LA had won either, or BOTH as in fact has happened with DC, LA fans would be creaming their pants to point it out. As it stands, they've won neither. But that's alright, you can hold on to the fact that LA has Beckham, but still manages to stink once again.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist racist comment edited I'm not a hard core MLS fan but it does bother me to see how Chivas is destroying the image of the whole league with their terrible attendance in a top-class stadium.
Re: Attendance: 9,306.. ESPN "F"ed us again. The average weeknight game is only 4.378% lower than the average Saturday night game (although a few large July 4th crowds affect that figure) This crowd was 13% lower than Chivas average crowd (sans SuperClassico) for the season. Hopefully Sunday is better, but Sunday's are worse than weekdays attendance wise.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist Thank for the info. I thought Compton was in East LA for some reason. The HDC really is in a good spot though as it is the nexus of the highly populated South LA and not far from Orange County. I guess the whole point would be for them create a stronger fan identity though. Despite poor attendance this team is not such a failure financially. They have a sponsor and don't lose much leeching off of the Gal's stadium. A worse scenario for them would be if they decided to build their own stadium and were still be an LA afterthought. If they are not a financial failure it is unlikely we will see them move. It is also not an important thing to ask for.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist KC, Columbus and NY average somewhat similar attendance numbers and they've been around since the start of the league. We're a 2 and a half year old expansion team that is under the shadow of Beckham. Give it time I say...Ah I love how galaxy fans use this attendance issue to take a dig at us on a forum. Pathetic.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist Right, because Beckham joining the Galaxy has made attendance drop throughout the league.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist The sad part is that although I hate Lesbion, am not a fan of CD Guad, and am disgusted by the concept of Chivas "USA"...the team itself is a joy to watch. They play attractive attacking soccer and when they click, they make it a free-flowing game. They do need to rebrand and relocate even if it's just Chivas (insert new location). But Chivas "USA" come on! Not to mention to put a team in the States that is famous for it's "Mexican players only" policy is just asinine. I really hope that the team is redone, I'd hate to see that squad break up...but then again, I love to hate the Lesbion biatches.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist That's not really fair. Columbus had had one of the steadiest attendances since that stadium was built. This year they're down to 12.5K, but oddly enough they haven't had any games under 10K. That means a very stable base. If the team could ever find a way to become relevant, the attendance will go back to what it was in the Brian McBride days when they would get 15-20K all the time.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist Average attendance of 15-20k was between 1999 and 2004. Very respectable. Any idea as to why the sudden drop? average attendance: 2004 - 16,872 2005 - 12,916
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist They won the supporters shield in 2004. Then proceded to suck something awful in 2005 and 2006.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist Yeah, what Onionsack said. I'd also add 2007 to his list though. I mean Barros Schelotto has been a spark, but the team overall still looks like they might miss playoffs again. Big game for them Saturday.
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist Damn that SS curse. Although it looks as if DC United might be able to avoid the worst of it this year. But they could still get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs to continue the SS "tradition"
Re: Chivas USA Shouldn't Exist Im sorry to say this but all those "Tuzo" fans werent tuzos. Most of the fans in the HDC for the final were Mexicans who decided to root for the Tuzos. Even Calero recognized that after the game when he thanked all the mexican fans who came out to root for Pachuca.