Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4596209.stm In news that suprises no one Cole and Chelsea and guilty of tapping up. They have 14 days to appeal but expect very large fines.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Exactly, given they were all at the meeting, they were all guilty. The fines may give a clue as to who the PL thought instigated it all...
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Are you guys happy with this outcome? Don't you think this will drive him away?
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Jose "Ex-European Champion" Mourniho would be disappointed you left his name out....
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock But if the rule states that guilt lies with whoever makes the approach, how can both parties be guilty of breaking their respective rules?
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Chelsea in breach of Rule K3 which prohibits a club making an approach to a player under contract without obtaining permission of his club Ashley Cole in breach of Rule K5 which prevents a contracted player making an approach to a club with a view to negotiating a contract without prior written consent from his club Mourinho was found to be in breach of Rule Q, governing managers' conduct
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock I hope that this hurts the agents involved in all this most. Hopefully they've done irreparable damage to their reputations and players and clubs henceforth refuse to deal with them at all.... /sorry for actually contributing something useful to this thread, I apologize
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Doesn't common sense say that only one party approached the other, and therefore only K3 OR K5 can be true? Just trying to see through the smoke and bs.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock in this case.. shouldnt LOGIC be used for a punishment? hitting them in the wallet solves NOTHING.. and anyone who knows the situation, knows this.. so why would a fine be any sort of "punishment?" i am sure something could be done to hinder this type of ILLEGAL tapping up~ and NICE, before you state something about precedents (liverpool), thats the exact reason to do something drastic... as you lot will laugh at a fine.. and you know that to be true.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock We're soooo excited! He was at the meeting with his agent. IMO he was guilty and that is how it was ruled. I don't think anyone is happy about it now or when it happened. We hope he wants to stay and play for Arsenal, but we'll all have to wait. And why would it drive him away from Arsenal? The team didn't press charges, the FA did.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Sadly, phishy, you're talking about the Premier League. We all know that logic and reason don't apply there.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Initially, yes. If one contacted the other but the contactee reported the incident, then only one would be charged. But since they agreed to meet, both parties are guilty.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Well, I'm assuming that if for instance I'm AC3, and I answer the phone and Jose asks me to a meeting my reply should be "I'm sorry Mr Mourinho, but...Cheryl, not now,I'm on the phone,blimey you're insatiable,yes I know you're sexy, but.. no not you Mr Mourinho, but no, if you want to speak about a contract with Chelsea you have to speak to a Mr Dein..yes D...E...I...N... no I don't have his number, try looking under the F.A. his number will be there" Not "No problem, I'll be there in 1/2 hour, and mine's a pina colada and a portion of fresh pasta" AC3 knows the rules, his agent certainly does and whoever was asked shouldn't have agreed to go to the meeting...
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock I suspect within the interpretation of the laws that both sides could be guilty of approaching each other. That is, if you were to say that to "approach" means to take steps toward contract negotiation then K3 and K5 would not be mutually exclusive. Now back to plain english. Yeah it would make sense that one party did the initial approach or contact and as others have said the punishments might reflect this. Of course they might not as well ... as a means of dissuasion toward anyone that might try it in the future. obviously just speculating here.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock dock points from Chelsea to start the new season...one can dream anyhow.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock I can't see any points being docked and a punishment relating to the crime is in order. I think a transfer embargo should be placed on them until the end of the current transfer window.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock If points were docked for Chelsea I would really fear what Ash's punishment would be considering the FA has found him just as guilty. I imagine it will just be large fines all around. Hopefully, Ash won't be too pissed and we can still re-sign him.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Well based on the opening of the verdict, I would say Arsenal, or at least David Dein, played a major part in the charges being brought. As a result of an official complaint by Arsenal FC the Premier League appointed an independent commission... Didn't Dein also give evidence for the prosecution? And with all the noises his lawyers have been making about appealing this to the EU courts, one would think that the odds of him re-signing at anything under what he perceives as his market value are close to zero.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock I don't even care anymore. If he stays, he stays. If he goes, he goes.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock One may well think that, but one could well be very wrong... AC3 loves playing for Arsenal, he's a life long fan, what he did WAS wrong, and was AGAINST the good of AFC, for which he deserves punishment. Only a fool would think otherwise, and I'm sure that Wenger would take him back under his comforting wing once this is done. Plus, where else will he go ??
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock So you think he'll sign a new deal at <£70-75k per week? I just can't see it happening.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock If he truly wants to be a Gunner, then fine, let him sign a contract. If he doesn't, I say sell him to the highest bidder outside of England. As in all things, the guiltiest parties here are probably the agents. Is there some way the FA can decertify or dyslicense them or something like that?
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock the FA has zero power over those agents, although IIRC Peter Hill-Wood and David Dein have said before that there are certain agents that they never deal with. that is the best way to "blacklist" these agents.
Re: Cole and Chelsea gulity...what a shock Psst pass this note to Ashley Cole (he's wearing the No. 3 Arsenal jersey) Dear Ashley: I think you are a swell football player! Will you meet me after school to talk about what a swell player you are? Check Yes or No Your friend, Jose Hello whatever happened to meeting in dark alleys where people can't see you??!?!??! They are all wrong and this are just not enough buckets of stupidity and blame to go around.......