The Big "Paucity of English Youth Talent" Debate!

A curious trend is developing. James horsfield is the latest of a group of young English players that prefer to sign a contract with Dutch Eredivisieclubs with lower paychecks than to stay in England.

 

http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/jul/24/england-development-coaches-confirmed-240717

Staffing positions confirmed; Boothroyd keeps U21s, Simpson and Downing swap at U19/U20 levels, Cooper takes the U17WC and U17s thereafter, Dewsnip continues as U18 coach after the WC. Also confirms the U20s are in that European Elite League that I need to dig out the details for.

EDIT: This - http://www.knvb.nl/nieuws/oranje/oranje-jeugd/23914/elite-league-nieuwe-uitdaging-voor-onder-20.

 

rumors all over twitter arsenal have signed jadon sancho https://twitter.com/Sanchooo10

 

That says the elite league is for players born 1 January 1997 or later. So the U20s will be U21 players and the U21s will be U22 players... At least that classification will be useful in the second year of the U21 cycle when it's U23 and a lot of the best U21 players currently spend a year in limbo before the next cycle starts.

I guess our squad will be a mix of 98s and the best of the 97s who don't make the U21 cut. It'll be good to keep more 97s involved. If the FA wanted to they could schedule U20 friendlies for the 98s as normal and have a full squad of 97s for the elite league games.

 

It does, but the FA's page specifically says that their under-20/European Elite League group is for players born on or after 1 Jan 1998. Could be a mistake on the FA page, could be a mistake on the KNVB page re the eligibility rules of the EEL, or it might mean that we're voluntarily taking a younger squad.

 

As an aside, does anyone find it odd that some groups have "in possession coaches", some groups have "out of possession coaches", and some have both? Not that I'd want to imply that Aidy Boothroyd could use any help with his fluid attacking football.

EDIT: Just saw zXen's post in the under-21 thread. Not just me then.

 

your guess is as good as mine. it just seems strange that city are saying nothing regarding sancho's situation. and we know sancho & nelson are good mates. it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he did end up at the goonies. cant really see him at spurs dortmund are sniffing aswell.

 

Moving to Arsenal from City for game time would be an odd choice.

 

He would be in Arsenal's League Cup/Europa League/early rounds of the FA Cup squad. He'd be in Manchester City's U23 squad and maybe get 10 minutes off the bench in the League Cup. He's wouldn't be a first team regular but it's not an odd move at all for game time.

 

He ought to talk to Willock or Crowley about opportunities at Arsenal...
This is a controversial view, but I have my doubts about Sancho. From everything I have seen, he essentially has one move. He takes the ball about 25 metres from goal near the left touchline then toys with defender feinting left and right, but then almost always cuts inside. He then runs across field before looking for a pass or shot. He almost never goes down the line because his left foot is strictly for standing on. I fear he may find that at the top level, defenders will simply show him the outside. I remember that Sterling had a similar MO at youth level. But he rarely is allowed to cut inside in the Premier League. Until I see signs that Sancho has another trick in his bag, I will remain sceptical because while he has skills, he is not as fast as Sterling which limits his options even more.

 

And - if he goes to Arsenal you would have to question the advice he is getting. If he is truly interested in opportunities, go to a smaller club, or ideally to Spurs, who are not buying overseas and would therefore not crowd him out.

 

'Everything you've seen' can't amount to very much.

 

Messi always cuts inside that was never a problem. so does Robben. Besides Sancho doesn't have a bad left foot. could be improved but he does use his left foot. Besides, Sancho actually goes inside and outside.

 

Or he could talk to Reiss Nelson, Alex Iwobi and Ainsley Maitland-Niles... even Willock or Crowley would be able to talk about a more positive experience at Arsenal than someone like Brandon Barker at Man City.

 

We are losing ox and potentially theo

Need some English kids

 

You can have Brandon Barker

 

Love the game! pic.twitter.com/852NTzl38l

— Jadon Sancho (@Sanchooo10) July 26, 2017

sancho just uploaded this 1hr ago. not exactly dispelling those rumors now is he

 

wouldn't say Sterling is disappointing. Sancho is not one footed.

 

I don't recall Sir Alex Ferguson having a problem playing youngsters when he was Manchester United manager and they are a far bigger club than Chelsea, but like I said before Chelsea's academy is nothing more than a glorified puppy farm, because unless you have the talent of a 16/17 year old Wayne Rooney then you have next to no chance of making it there, because despite what they say there academy is just a money making venture, and if they happen to produce a Rooney like talent then that is just a bonus, P.S if Mason Mount has any sense, if his loan spell in Holland is a success, he should not follow the RLC and Brown route, by keep signing contract extendions then going out on loan, he should do what Solanke has done and jump ship to another club and make a name for himself away from Chelsea.

 

It's a shame really

Not many kids will get a chance in this high pressure sky league where every game is aparently a big one