The Art of VAR - Other Teams Thread[R]

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  1. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Germany like many traditional powers is have a talent lull at the moment some of the recent world cup winners like Spain, Italy and Germany are not able to produce talents that match their pedigree

    Look at Spain by the time you take out the remainder of the 2010 world cup winning generation like Ramos Busquets Pique all you have are above average players

    England Portugal are coming up while France has a limitless talent pool
     
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  2. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    You're unbelievably stupid.

    That figure is from 2010 to 2018; meaning before this summer.

    I am specifically speaking of before this summer so my club's spending power should be significant enough to withstand spending even €300M net... yet we only spent half that net.

    I get your not that bright; we all do... however ehy you choose to repeatedly show us? Only God knows.
     
  3. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    I literally used an example of his club spending nearly 6 times more on average yearly and the fool still can't "comprende".
     
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  4. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Man, I want to watch Serbia vs Portugal but it's UFC 242 in Abu Dhabi atm :mad:
     
  5. RaMaaa

    RaMaaa Member+

    Feb 3, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    when Khabib? around what time?
     
  6. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  7. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    You have a problem making assumptions and jumping to conclusions. It's not the first time you do that. What I called out was the math equalling 15m a year which is way wrong. Not that your club has spent a lot of money or ability to buy Neymar. And why are you even bringing Barca into this ? I will be the first to say the club spending is crazy.

    2010-2018 net spent by Madrid looks to be ~28m. That's if you count Rodrygo signing in 2019-20 ... if you count him last season, that number is actually around 33m. If you add Ronaldo's season when he signed, then that number is 49m a year.

    But hey ... you say 15m. Math is fundamental.
     
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  8. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  9. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
     
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  10. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm so envious of City having Bernardo Silva and De Bruyne. Having them on RW and in middlefield is exactly what would complete our team.
     
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  11. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    Odegaard and Kubo will be the next De Bruyne and B. Silva;)
     
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  12. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    #10837 temesgen, Sep 7, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2019
    People literally use a data point from a decade ago to support the narrative that we are a big spender. That said, I still think we have been too reluctant to go after some of the biggest opportunities, we really should have been more aggressive moving on from Bale and signing Mbappe for example.
     
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  13. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    @Eddie lol how did you react to this?
     
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  14. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Damn you're stupid. Even the "math" you quoted is trash.

    Do us all a solid and shut the hell up.
     
  15. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    I think our President has just become ultra-conservative seeing the Oil clubs move in this market.
     
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  16. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I agree. Same applies for players sold.

    Then you have to understand FFP "regulations" and how it "applies".
     
  17. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    My data is in $ and not Euros and it's from Transfermkt. If that's off then the numbers are off. But the math is right. Unlike your 15m number that's off with whatever math or logic.
     
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  18. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    good win for Portugal on the road
     
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  19. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    since 09/10 thru most recent window we made 926mm from sales and spent 1566mm

    since 09/10 thru most recent window barca generated 947mm from sales and spent 1687mm

    But keep in mind this is showing barca's neymar purchase at 101mm, I think it's higher but they would argue it was 57mm. In any case we've spent at least 100mm less over this period of time, but it could be more depending on neymar and other shady deals with valencia.
     
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  20. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    At the end of the day what counts is how many ligas they’ve won in this time period compared to us and how many CLs we’ve won compared to them.
     
  21. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Looks about right. My intention was never to show Madrid have been big spenders ... because I know they haven't been for the 2nd half of the decade. Barca has spent much more even if you go back to 09/10. That's not even a debate. But since the data shown was for almost 10 years, it'd be disingenuous to not include the spending done in 09/10 which affected the club in a big way. And even without that season ... it isn't 15m a year net.

    I don't think anybody except Rosell would say Neymar's transfer was 57m.
     
  22. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
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  23. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    I'd venture 09/10 is being left out because starting in 10/11 gives 10 years of data... Reporting 11 years worth of data actually looks more biased even if it leaves out a somewhat important data point.
     
  24. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #10849 Eddie, Sep 8, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2019
    It was hilarious lol :D.

    edit: A lot of reports coming from the stadium that say the speaker apologized to the "Armenian" fans. LMAO someone was having a bad day (or the best) at work.
     
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  25. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Point being is that RM has substantial reserves. Negative net debt, substantial cash, etc... Barcelona does not.
     

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