Arteta himself has said he's had a learning curve. Talked about some things he should have done earlier, or things he could have done better, etc. So I don't think the critisims was necessary undeserved. The real question was could he be a elite manager, not was he a good manager. I think he has regrets about Guendo, and he probably didn't resign Aubo for footballing reasons, but for more political reasons.
Meanwhile we have this from Hodgson: “That’s good work from their side. I try very hard not to criticise teams for trying to speed up the game. If that means the coach runs to give the ball quicker, I congratulate them.”
If this is a true quote, it just cements a little soft spot I have for Roy. I would never ever want him to manage Arsenal but I respect the man, his honesty, his longevity, his absolute dedication and love for the game, etc. p.s. He would've been well within his rights to add another sentence which said that his side were a bit snoozy. Our goal is also a bit down to them as well as it's on Arteta being "proactive" and then us doing some really nice crisp passing work after that!
not saying it's wrong but i've never heard that one, either. the part i remember was the conflict at the camp being with sokratis and guendouzi's refusal to apologise to arteta and/or edu.
I wanted to post this near the end of the match yesterday but was on my phone and it was too hard. This put a smile on my face. Not just the quantity, but he even symmetry... If we can get goals from those 3 forward positions and maybe occasionally from midfielder or defenders, it may not matter if our nominal CF bags any goals or not. Especially if he keeps up some of the fab assists he’s been coming up with lately!
Same. I thought he was going to have a tough time coming into an unsettled environment with a noob at SD and as a rookie Manager but he's learned and his man management has improved.
I wouldn’t say that his man-management skills have improved. I just think his style and decisions have not hurt him. I still think that it is his biggest weakness. But, like I said before, I have to give him credit if the team can pull off 4th place despite not agreeing with many of his ways and decisions.
I would say we don't know one way or the other if his man-management skills have improved. Since the Aubameyang exile, what example---good or bad---of man-management skills have we seen? The only thing we know is that the team is playing pretty well and the players, including Auba's good friend, seem to have bought in to Arteta's system.
Maybe - Liverpool have been a really tough matchup under Arteta. Tierney hasn't been great, and Martinelli will need to be glued to Trent.
it's been weird with that. he's gone through some wonky relationship bits but, as i've seen noted, his players appears to have never given up on him even when we've gone through tough stretches.
Yes he has the loyalty of the ones he's not exiled. That's good I guess. My concern is next year. Let's be real we didn't think United would stoop this low after last year and they and spurs have had many managerial changes. We need to get it fully right before they turn things around.
By refusing to sign a contract with Marseille Guendouzi is the only one that can make a return to Arsenal happen now and hell would have to freeze over first. He’s gone. I will continue to rue the circumstances that saw Gnabry leave, but Arsenal can and should do better than Guendouzi.
speaking of whom, man is just playing with our emotions now. Throwbacks everywhere in this one.. #PrimeVideo @PrimeVideoDE pic.twitter.com/f8qzWVB9op— Serge Gnabry (@SergeGnabry) March 7, 2022
My point was that there is no reason to believe that it has improved. It’s hard to tell when the team is winning, when everyone is happy and when there are no contract issues. That’s when you need these skills. Right now, it’s easy. It’ll be interesting to see how Arteta will handle the Martenelli/Odegaard/ESR situation this summer. All of them deserve to play, and someone is going to be left out. I could see teams coming from ESR. He isn't going to want to be on the bench forever, and goal-scoring midfielders always are in demand. Not for value. We will not find a player in his age range with his ability at anywhere close to the amount of money that we paid for him or will sell him to OM (9 million pounds) for. We may get someone better, but it will not be cheap.
While he was a bargain and Arsenal may not find equal value for the money they spent on him, there probably is equal value at about £20m. But more importantly, I don’t believe that Guendouzi, as a Xhaka replacement, would take Arsenal to the next level. As far as sell on value goes that comes full circle to another discussion in this thread, man management. Arteta’s man management tanked Guendouzi’s market value. Any team interested in Guendouzi knew that Arsenal wanted to get rid of him, so Marseille low balled the purchase option in the loan deal. The argument could be made that Arsenal already have their Guendouzi replacement in Lokonga. See a per 90 comparison on FBref: https://fbref.com/tiny/zCqFu
At their age, I think Guendouzi is a much better player than Lokonga and is more versatile. But I do agree with two of your points: 1. Lokonga probably is the replacement, and 2. Guendouzi is gone. I do wish Lokonga well, and I would like to see more of what he can do and how he might develop. However, I would be lying if I said that I wouldn’t rather have Guendouzi on the team.