The Arsenal vs. Burnley, Premier League Matchday 21, 23 January 2022

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Tonerl, Jan 22, 2022.

  1. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We play Wolves and Brentford in the month of February. That's it.

    2 games between now and March 5th, that's 40 days.

    We'd better be a completely different team by then.
     
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    A thing that's very frustrating about this team is that they either play perfectly or look completely inept, and you can tell which kind of game it's going to be almost immediately.

    What's the last grind-it-out win we've had? Watford in November? We have 6 wins since then, all by multiple goals, and a smorgasbord of abysmal performances.
     
  3. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Said it for months, saying it again.
    Arteta is out of his depth and needs to go.

    Coming into this season this short was absolutely criminal and that's on him and Edu.
     
  4. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
     
  5. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Arteta: 5 games, 3 red cards, 1 goal, 0 wins this month.

    Arsenal board: Get this man a new contract!
     
  6. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Fixed your post. Their right back fouled him at least four times w/o a yellow and there was one more that resulted in a play on because Saka stayed on his feet.
     
  7. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    we are finishing sixth if they dont get a striker and a CM
     
  8. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. Burnley was just clogging the middle until the ball went to Martinelli or Saka, and they doubled and tripled, not worried about Lacazette at all. Our kids are doing their best. The more senior players are the ones letting us down,
     
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  9. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ditto. It's also why I don't put all of this on Arteta. It's painfully obvious the side still has holes, as we've echoed for much of the past few weeks.
     
  10. Cop Shoot Cop

    Cop Shoot Cop Member

    Sep 26, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    As frustrating as a sixth place finish may be, it is better than might have been expected, and, if things go the right way, could see Europa League as a point in favor of Arsenal as a destination for players looking to make a move.
     
  11. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Idk, there seemed to be a pretty broad consensus on here that Saka had a pretty bad day. Some even compared him to Pepe, i.e. the futility of his forays from out wide. Sure he gets fouled a lot. But that’s not the only reason for his performance today me thinks.
     
  12. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    possibly that's a byproduct of arteta wanting to play manchester city-level of football with not-manchester city-level of players. like, you can hit that precision but you aren't at the tier to do it consistently so, when it does come off, it's glorious. and, then, there's . . . the rest of the time.
     
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  13. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I don’t think he had a great game, but I do believe he had a better game than the consensus on this forum. Per WhoScored.com he had 4 shots, 1 on target, 1 key pass, he completed 5 dribbles, two more than the rest of the team combined, was
    fouled 4 times, dispossessed just once, and completed more than 90 percent of his passes.

    Burnley don’t provide much offensive threat, but they are a decent team defensively. They are effective enough at parking the bus, that they have allowed the eight fewest goals in league play and unless you have a striker that’s very good in the air, crosses aren’t a particularly effective tactic against their centerbacks.
     
  14. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    I said pre-season we were short and an injury run away from being totally ********ed. Its funny that I mention this again on reddit yesterday, and the response was "we spent 150mil what more did you want" and honestly if we are about to flip another 70mil why didn't we spend that earlier.
     
  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Those 4 shots had a combined xG of 0.17 - they weren't good efforts. He completed a lot of dribbles, but wasn't generating anything dangerous at the end of them, and I think his "key pass" was a corner.

    He was very involved, but the end product was so minimal that it was a huge negative for the overall team performance. Burnley basically dared Saka to beat them, and he didn't.
     
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  16. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe we shoulda signed Chris Wood? :p
     
  17. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was quite obviously gassed. We've been playing him too much,
     
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  18. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Could easily go lower than 6th. Lose to Wolves in our next game and we are down to Arteta's familiar 8th, while still having 4 games against the "big six" and another Wolves + West Ham game to come.
     
  19. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Good one. Familiar 8 because he used to wear that number.

    We should have gone for Vieira as head coach if you know what I mean.
     
  20. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Thierry is definitely a no go then.
     
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  21. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Toure isn't that bad an option. Possibly Lehman lol
     
  22. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sky is falling when our starting midfielders were out and Burnley created nothing of note.

    Performance wasn't ideal, but:



    We played well enough to win, and you have a couple of games like this every season.
     
  23. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah it’s really the timing of it that has everybody in a lather.

    The fact these disappointing results came in three different competitions could be seen as a blessing in disguise, really. We’re still in a strong position in the league, and despite handwringing over potential fixture congestion with the rearranged games, we only have 17 matches to play between now and the end of May. We’ve got every opportunity to solidify our credentials.
     
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  24. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    We have made too many missteps already to afford games like we had against Burnley and still get top 4. The only big 6 team we didn't lose to was Nuno's spurs, and we still have 4 games against the big six, 2 against Wolves, and away games at both West Ham and Villa. That is half of our remaining fixture list.
     
  25. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    538's odds (take with grain of salt, and so on), basically have it as a wash for top 4 between us and Sperz, with United and West Ham as outside shots.

    We've got work to do, obviously, but the sky is NOT falling.
     

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