The All-Encompassing Pro/Rel Thread on Soccer in the USA

I see plenty of seats available for their PL match in 3 days: https://www.eticketing.co.uk/evertonfc/EDP/Event/Index/97

 

It looks like Everton offer fans the chance to resell their tickets if they don't want to go.

It looks like a couple of hundred or so, just singles and the odd double sprinkled about.

That's promising, as I fancy going up to a game there before they move out.

 

But the FACT is there are not! Everton sell out EVERY home game and they have done now for a number of years! And as you can see from my links (which Im guessing you didnt look at) they are continuing to sell out EVERY home league game!

 

But it's Monday and there's no match. Why would anyone be there?

 

It's good to see you've recovered from the three comical goals your lot conceded in their cup game... I mean, wtf?

 

Singapore betting syndicate.

It's my only explanation.

 

Was there a memorable game when they clinched promotion, or was it a board meeting?

 

It was announced a couple days after they celebrated winning their thrilling comeback win in their 1st round FCS playoff game.

Oddly enough, they were INVITED to join a D1 conference due to their history of being a top 1-AA program both in terms of winning and support.

 

They also won at least one title at the lower level. I attended their semifinal win over Wofford (SC) in 2003. They won their national title in Chattanooga in what was then Division I-AA.

 

Yup, went to 2 other title games at 1-AA level

Also have a D2 title as well (3 total app)

 

Amateur sport? Lol.

"The move will also be more costly after the NCAA Division I Council voted in October to increase the FBS membership cost from $5,000 to $5 million, along with stricter scholarship requirements, as a way to deter FCS teams that aren’t as invested from making the move."

https://theathletic.com/5096623/2023/11/28/delaware-fbs-conference-usa-realignment/

So the bigger question is did they have a cartel membership fee acceptance party?

 

The NCAA is one of the worst things about this country.

 

Sporting wise I hope you mean.

 

Like I said Everton sell out EVERY home league game and as you can see from my link they are continuing to do so. I'm not sure why you mentioned it being a Monday? I don't think I mentioned the days of the week???

 

I don't give two shits about English soccer.

 

We do because that's all we have. Still doesn't mean it's the same or just as good.

Why? USL and MLS play at the same time of the year and both play a national schedule asking clubs to fly cross country. USL-1 also requires cross country travel.

And I am sure Delaware Stadium was full to the rafters with fans witnessing an incredible emotional moment with Rich Gannon on the sidelines in tears.

Oh right it was a bunch of guys looking at spreadsheets realizing that they can make more money for the University by moving up.

There are times that it's better for an organization to make these decisions based on spreadsheets and money. And that should be the focus of the debate around MLS. But deciding it in offices vs on the field isn't the same thing. Pro/rel does bring value and makes it more interesting. Is that worth the insecurity? Welp that's the debate, but let's not pretend they are in some way comparable.

 

It was pretty full when I was there in 2003.

 

And that's exactly what owners are doing in Nottingham and Sheffield and Barnsley and Fleetwood are doing. They're looking at spreadsheets and thinking if I invest this I can do this and make a ton of money. Unless they're the type of owner that has $millions to throw away.

The difference is that there are no guarantees in a pro-rel system.

The EFL is tech stocks, MLS is government bonds.

 

What?

 

I would have thought a more fundamental difference is that with pro/rel, the bottom line something has to be achieved (or not) on the field of play. With closed leagues, that's almost wholly not the case.

 

I can tell you at the moment that being a Forest fan (which I'm not) is not exciting, it's not nail biting, it's just depressing. They've got 5 more months of this to come.

Last couple of games of the season may bring about a huge sign of relief but until then there's nothing worse than supporting a team that's being dragged into a relegation battle.

Sheffield United fans didn't expect much. They'll be happy with a couple of hundred £million to pay off their huge debts. Every Luton point is a bonus. Burnley fans must be disappointed that their new owners didn't invest more. But Forest are in the absolute worst position going into the holiday season.

 

There's a LOT worse - like supporting a team destined to play lower league football for eternity!!

 

I disagree.

 

Santos fans are taking relegation well.