Yes, such small markets as [checks notes] Barcelona, Madrid, Berlin, and Buenos Aries. Still, my point was more about how Green Bay, one of the most historically successful teams in gridiron football, plays in the 272nd largest metro area in the U.S. So Frog Balls may be out of the question, but I’m not sure why Memphis or San Antonio or Birmingham or St. Louis or Raleigh or you name it would have to be. But I stand by football being a bad example in general.
If by "wildly popular amateur system" you're referring to college football, it clearly isn't amateur. Just as clearly, unless that system can be decoupled from colleges, lower division football isn't going to happen. We're stuck with perennial failures such as the NY Jets and Detroit Lions.
My point still stands, though: as long as colleges do not have to pay for labor, nothing can realistically compete with that. Even if the NCAA didn’t exist (or wasn’t amateur), I’m not convinced it’s feasible to pay for 40+ players on a lower league budget, not even getting into the insurance costs necessary for a football team.
Mmm, you're confusing a mandatory cartel membership fee with a non coerced self inflicted wound by being stupid on your own. Unless you can provide evidence that P/R demands to be stupid.
You're just like that other guy coupling things that havenot got anything to do with each other. The behaviour of certain people has to do with their lack of realism, which then results in stupid behaviour. Unless you can provide proof of such a rule in the P/R system that tells you to spend like an idiot. By the way, just this week the Spanish FA has ordered the Spanish La Liga clubs to cut their wage bill drastically, so there's a cap with open systems: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20201117-barcelona-hit-hard-as-la-liga-slashes-salary-caps Barcelona's salary cap for this season has been cut by almost 300 million euros according to La Liga's list of spending limits for Spanish clubs, announced on Tuesday. The coronavirus pandemic has had huge economic effects on Spain's top-flight teams, with Barca among those worst affected. Their wage cap for the 2020-21 season will be 382.7 million euros, down from 671.4 million euros last term, when they had the highest limit in La Liga. Real Madrid will have the biggest budget this season although theirs has also been reduced from 641 million euros to 468.5 million euros. Atletico Madrid have seen a decrease of 131.8 million euros to 252.7 million euros, which leaves Atletico with nearly half as much to spend as their city rivals Real. La Liga's 20 first division clubs will be able to spend a total of 2.33 billion euros on wages this season, which represents a drop of 610 million euros. Salary allocations in Spain can be spent on players, coaches and academy players, with the aim to bring greater financial stability to the 42 teams in the top two divisions. Barcelona is already negotiating another round of cuts for their players while Real Madrid may also begin negotiating a reduction in salaries, according to reports in Spain. Both clubs have been heavily impacted by the pandemic, given their heavy reliance on matchday revenue, as well as income generated from museums and club shops. Barcelona allowed Luis Suarez, Arturo Vidal and Ivan Rakitic to leave during the summer transfer window and were open to selling Ousmane Dembele. Real Madrid chose not to make a single new signing for the first time in 40 years. © 2020 AFP
So wait....La Liga had a Salary Cap? How can something be slashed if it never existed league wide, nor was previously enforced in the league?
Green Bay is definitely an outlier in more ways than one. From 1933 to 1994 the Packers played as many as half their home games each year 100 miles away in Milwaukee. Milwaukee is now the 39th largest metro area in the U.S. but for most of that period it was in the top 20 or so. No other NFL team played so many games away from their home city. In the 1960s while the Packers were playing half their games there, Milwaukee tried to lure them into moving full-time and pursued an AFL team when that didn't work. The Packers, however, had a lease that gave them exclusive rights to pro football games at Milwaukee County Stadium. That lease was good until 1976 and by that point the NFL and AFL had merged so Milwaukee lost any leverage.
Where do you get the notion the salary cap wasnot enforced? There are multiple systems of salary caps, apart from the dumb US one. The La Liga one most likely is connected to the clubs revenues. With the severe drop in revenues it only is logical the salary cap goes down too.
Right...the US salary cap structure is dumb, because why? In the US, in many leagues there is an equal playing field between teams (major league baseball does not have a salary cap, there is a ceiling that when exceeded that team pays a luxury tax to all the other teams under that ceiling). How is a salary cap dependent on an individual team's revenue a better model? This keeps the Huge clubs huge, and the small clubs small. Sounds awfully familiar to UEFA's Financial "Fair Play." More like Unfair Play.....
https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i...ball-multiple-r.2002464/page-19#post-39118979 P/R in national team competitions.
The CONCACAF Nations League also has promotion and relegation. There are multiple salary management systems in the US. Which is the dumb one?
The point in the quote is an answer to the ones questioning the joy of P/R for fans of/clubs not being a biggie.
Because its incredibly broken? I've literally stood in a room and had a EFL club president explain to me how its broken. I've seen another club owner (A.Stanley) go into great detail online on how things are broken. I've seem multiple teams in the last year fall apart because its broken. "Something that isn't broken" FFS.
The NBA's, where rights to retired players still have significant value and are traded in order to get more cap room.
This is a dumb ass post and you're generally better than it. Copyright/trademark law is hardly a MLS invention. You want the rights to a closed up team you have to buy the rights from whomever ended up with them, even in England.
This is actually the dumb ass post. Why should a league as opposed to the bankrupt team own a team name? That is so... cartelesque.
Yea American soccer fans really need to stop drooling over the euro leagues. Their systems are made to keep the rich teams rich and the poor teams poor. While we may not have a prefect system here at least everyone has a chance to win any given year.
It's the way of the future. Major League Rugby and XFL RIP have done the same thing. One thing it does is prevent a Francesco Becchetti, Peter Ridsdale or Peter Storrie from almost destroying your team.
All closed leagues. Hmm... It also makes it more difficult for a phoenix team to re-use a name. It also doesn't allow the bankruptcy process to sell the name as they see fit. And I don't see how it prevents what you think you think it prevents.