Tanking doesn't always get you the best players. Tom Brady was drafted 199th overall by the Patriots in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft. The quarterbacks picked ahead of him were Chad Pennington, Giovanni Carmazzi, Chris Redman, Tee Martin, Marc Bulger and Spergon Wynn.
And in the 1953 NFL draft, the New York Giants picked Hall of Famer Roosevelt Brown, one of the greatest offensive linemen of all time, in the 27th round.
Woah, really!?! So says the man that refuses to accept that pro/rel is a foreign concept in US sports and keeps calling for it to be like every other Euro league (expect Belgium,Holland and any other Euro league that has a playoff system for Euro spots). I mean damn man that's one hell of a self own.
That’s former D1-A National Champion Tee Martin. Was Tom Brady ever D1-A National Champion? Your honor, I rest my case.
If the thread was called "The All-Encompassing Use playoffs to determine the champion Thread" on Soccer in England, it would be entirely appropriate to talk about the perceived issue of how wrong it is to determine a champion through a round robin home/away structure.
I'll believe a draft doesn't reward failure when US major leagues all scrap their drafts. And anyway, it really doesn't matter. Either a draft rewards failure or, if it doesn't, the bottom teams - unlike in pro/rel leagues - have nothing to play for. Either way the moniker "playing for better draft choices" encapsulates those two possibilities and highlights a weakness of closed leagues. It's also interesting how some posters on here react to being confronted by that. I guess it hits a raw nerve. Heck, one particular individual crawled out of the woodwork after not posting here for seven weeks just to attack me. Go figure.
Yes, because that's a lot easier than actually analyzing data. For example, when was the last time a team in MLB immediately improved based on their draft? One of the historically worst teams in baseball, the Seattle Mariners, used a #1 draft pick on one of the all-time greats, who set a record for Hall of Fame votes gotten once he retired (Ken Griffey Jr.) and it still took 7 years to make the playoffs for the first time. Plus, the draft doesn't solely exist for the reason you claim. Its also a negotiated way between the NCAA and the major leagues to distribute college talent without issues like recruiters on campus and such. So even if id doesn't help teams at all there's still a reason for its existence.
And something can be both non-idiotic and on topic too... like the moniker "playing for better draft choices", for example.
I'll be damned! https://www.ninersnation.com/2014/4/24/5651186/giovanni-carmazzi-yoga-practicing-goat-farmer
Why is "immediate improvement" the only way to judge whether better draft choices rewarded failure? Yet with every other business, college recruitment seems to work just fine.
How so? In pro/rel leagues the price of failure is relegation. In closed leagues, the price of failure is "better draft choices". This is a thread on pro/rel. And it's not "whiny" anyway; it's accurate.
Imagine the money they'd have gotten if they hadn't been relegated. Is it more or less than a parachute payment?
Given the team is also relegated, it's hardly a reward. The equivalent would be if the better draft choices went to the teams at the top and the worst to those at the bottom along with banishment to the minor leagues for at least a season. Is that what happens?
Not to mention the reward of money is guaranteed. Even with a high draft pick there’s no guarantee the player even appears in a game, let alone becomes a vital contributor to the team in question.