On the Bayern shirt, we have the 3 stars. Germany also has 3 stars, one star per World Cup victory. I thought the starts on the Bayern shirt signify 5 Bundesliga titles each. But we've won the national championship for 20 times, but that would be 4 stars. We've also won the European Cup / Champions League 4 times. So, why do we have 3 stars and not 4?
this has already been talked about dozens of times in other threads within the past year, i know you are new so its all good. DFB hasn't come up with a 4th or 5th star rule yet. basically here it is.... 1 star=3 bundesliga titles 2 star=5 bundesliga titles 3 star=10 bundesliga titles i sort of like this thread around tho because i was wondering when did the bundesliga start keeping track for these stars? because i know nuremburg has a ton of titles before WWII and i don't remember seeing them with 2 stars since they have like 9 or so titles in top flight since 1900. after the 1963-65 area when the made the league 16 clubs? also, how do the stars go if at all to Dynamo Berlin? they dominated the east german leagues for quite some time while in dresden and after their move to berlin. do they get any stars? or no because they were part of east german league?
the clubs can choose if they want to put the stars on the uniform. i dont know why, but some clubs already refused to add the stars. toobad i cant remember who, but i read about it a while ago (a long while ago). i think the bundesliga should change the rule with stars, for example just making it 4 stars for 20. then we can wait another 20 years until bayern has won 30 titles and then we can discuss again.
Ah I see... ... one thing though, shouldn't the Champions League shirt stars depict how many Champions League / European Cup victories a team has had? I feel it makes more sense this way.
Also https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142524&highlight=stars On the CL jersey, on the arm, will be a patch w/ a European Cup and a number of how many that team has won. Look at the blue patch
The Bundesliga was founded in 1963 and from that time on the championships are counted. That´s why Nurnberg wears no star. No team refused to wear the official stars, all five teams allowed to wear them do it: 3 Stars: Bayern (19 BL titles) 2 Stars: M'Gladbach (5 BL titles) 1 Star: Bremen (4), Dortmund (3), Hamburg (3) To complete the statistics the other BL titles went to: Köln, Stuttgart and Kaiserslautern (2 titles) 1860 Munich, Braunschweig and Nurnberg (1 title) Some other teams have also stars on them club logo or shirts, such as Greuther Fürth (one for each Championship on their club logo) or East German record champ Dynamo Berlin, but these are no official BL stars, because they didn´t win the Bundesliga.
I have a related question: If Germany win the 2010 WC ( I think they have a strong chance), and they get the fourth star on their jersey, what would be the colour of the new star?
Mmh, good question. Italy has four stars and on their shirt the stars are yellow as on the German one, but Brasil has blue stars on their shirt, because of the yellow shirts. So, i guess, there´s no special rule about the color of the WC stars, but it depends on the background color of the shirt.
Mmh, good question. Italy has four stars and on their shirt the stars are yellow like on the German one, but Brasil has blue stars on their shirt, because of the yellow shirts. So, i guess, there´s no special rule about the color of the WC stars, but it depends on the background color of the shirt.
[QUOTE="Eisenfuß" Eilts]The Bundesliga was founded in 1963 and from that time on the championships are counted. That´s why Nurnberg wears no star. No team refused to wear the official stars, all five teams allowed to wear them do it: 3 Stars: Bayern (19 BL titles) 2 Stars: M'Gladbach (5 BL titles) 1 Star: Bremen (4), Dortmund (3), Hamburg (3) [/QUOTE] ah, ok. thank for the info. i always thought that nuernberg refused to wear the stars. i thought they had won more than one title since 1963. sorryfor the confusion and thanks to eisenfuss for clearing up things.
[QUOTE="Eisenfuß" Eilts]The Bundesliga was founded in 1963 and from that time on the championships are counted. That´s why Nurnberg wears no star.[/QUOTE] Ah I see, so that's why Bayern wears 3 stars, because they have 19 Bundesliga titles since 1963. The title they won in 1932 does not count. So if we win the Bundesliga this season, we'll probably get a fourth star
There are two seperate star systems for national titles in Germany. The DFL system and the DFB system. The DFL who controls the 1. and 2. Bundesliga awards stars only for Bundesliga titles. The DFB who is in charge of all amateur leagues allows stars for all titles, no matter if Bundesliga, pre-Bundesliga or East German league. The DFL refuses to acknowledge non-Bundesliga titles because they basically think only Bundesliga titles are the real deal and the rest is worthless.
[QUOTE="Eisenfuß" Eilts] So, i guess, there´s no special rule about the color of the WC stars, but it depends on the background color of the shirt.[/QUOTE] What i found very strange is the fact that in 2002, the three stars were Black, Red and Gold on a white background. For the 2006 WC, all the stars were Gold. http://cgi.ebay.com/GERMANY-JERSEY-...QcategoryZ2914QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting What was the reason for this change? Who decide on these aesthetic issues?
Dynamo Dresden and Dynamo Berlin have always been two different clubs. Dynamo Berlin was the Stasi (secret police) club which arguably didn't hurt them winning the East German league so often. They were the most hated club in East Germany because of that. Dynamo Dresden were a different club, arch rivals of Dynamo Berlin.
ok, thx for clarifying it. i am too young to know the exact specifics on this matter considering i was born (1986) just a little while before the fall of communism i thought that there was some sort of buyout and move to berlin, my mistake. thx again
Another good explanation Verdiente Meistervereine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesliga_(football)#Verdiente_Meistervereine Star (football crest) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_(football_crest)