The 2020 MLS TV thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by POdinCowtown, Jan 2, 2020.

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  1. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Who would have thunk 20 years ago or even just 10 years ago that I could turn on the television and watch San Marino vs Gibraltar (ESPN3) or Malta vs Andora (TUDN cable) live?

    Soccer has come a long way towards mainstream in this country!

    The population of those four added together is less than 750 k
     
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  2. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Would you also have thought that the biggest games would be behind a paywall over streaming? Soccer has moved further away from the mainstream and further into the niche in the last 5 years.
     
  3. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Most soccer games are and have always been behind paywalls. There are more games today over the air as well.
    TUDN is behind the cable paywall. ESPN3 is behind a cable paywall.
     
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  4. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Other than OTA networks, everything is behind some type of paywall.
     
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From a MLS standpoint it's not great that ESPN+ alone shows well over 100 games per week.
     
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  6. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    WorldSoccerTalk soccer ratings will now only be a part of the podcast and I am not going to be sitting there and listening to those idiots, so I guess I am now limited to whatever I come across on Twitter.
     
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  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004


    Philly care about the Union now?
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Heh didn't mean to highlight the 1 negative tweet lol
     
  10. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Some TV Ratings from the TVA Sports - the French sports channel in Quebec

    MTL vs New England : 81 000

    But the other games didn't do so great
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #611 Paul Berry, Dec 4, 2020
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 4, 2020
    Mls taking to existing broadcasters and maybeTurner.



    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2020/11/11/expect-tv-rights-fees-for-sports-to-soar/

    My opinion:

    Having a broadcaster that wasn't focused on other sports or leagues would be great. Ratings may not increase initially but knowing that there will be a have at a particular time and day every week would be a huge step forward.
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone hated Turner doing CL I thought.
     
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  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #613 Robert Borden, Dec 4, 2020
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2020
    TFC playoff game drew strong numbers

    Regarding the next TV Contract here in Canada

    There are rumors that MediaPro Canada will make a serious move to bid for the rights for MLS in Canada. Right now they have a streaming service only but are planning to launch a TV channel, I'm guessing MLS would be key for that happening.

    MediaPro holds all the rights to all National teams excluding WCQ and World Cup, Gold Cup and Nations League, all CPL and L1O rights, Liga MX, Belgian League and some of Ligue 1.
     
  14. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    That's because they treated it as an afterthought in a way not seen in the US since the 90s...
     
  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
  16. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was on Fox. Anything OTA in Prime Time is going to get high ratings.
     
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  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It replaced Thursday Night Football which averages about 10 million.
     
  18. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Two questions:

    1) Should we expect decent ratings for a potential Seattle vs Columbus MLS Cup match?
    2) Is there no English language coverage of the USA vs El Salvador match?
     
  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. <= 1 million
    2. ESPNnews and presumably ESPN+
     
  20. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    I would love to see > 1 million but that is wishful thinking. If Minnesota win and face Columbus we could be looking at < 500k
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last year of was 823k English and 447k Spanish.

    Minnesota and Columbus might wake up and realize they are both historic soccer cities. I think a lot of people would be happy not to see Seattle in the final, but Porter vs Schmetzer final might motivate Cascadia to turn on their TVs.
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having teams from two US markets should do better than an MLS Cup involving one Team from a US market...
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not necessarily. TFC are very watchable. I imagine ratings in Canada will suffer a bit but % wise they'll get numbers that SUM can only dream of in the US.
     
  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While it's true that TFC was a very watchable team, MLS is very market driven with regards to TV ratings and having a Canadian market in the MLS Cup had a fairly significant impact in the US ratings for the MLS Cups they were in. Obviously there was a significant increase in the Canadian viewership and, I believe, it more than made up for the reduction in the US ratings, but that increase in Canadian ratings doesn't matter to the US broadcasters.

    If the MLS Cup ends up being Columbus and Seattle, I'd expect the US ratings for the MLS Cup to be higher than the US ratings for the Seattle/TFC MLS Cups simply because you'll have fans for Columbus and Seattle watching the games. I also wouldn't be too surprised if the US ratings for a Columbus/Minnesota MLS Cup to be higher than the Seattle/TFC MLS Cups, but I definitely don't expect there to be a significant drop to below 500k that Centennial predicted.
     

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