The 2020 Election Mega Thread

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  1. soccernutter

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    There are lots of local and state elections. As @xtomx said, there is the WisSC position. In Milwaukee, there were multiple seats of Blacks (or younger Blacks) seeking office to remove the White or older incumbent.
     
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  2. Knave

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    My belief: he saw in Wisconsin absolute proof that people would literally die if the primary race continued.
     
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    That doesn't make sense. He was against the Wis Primary date (due to the pandemic) and didn't want people to go out and vote. Yet he announced after they would have gone out and voted? Wouldn't it have been better if he announced prior because some of his supporters would then not have voted?
     
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  4. JohnR

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    They're either dumb as rocks, intentionally trolling, or overemotional. Of course President Biden would sign an M4A bill. He will sign each and every bill that a Democratic Congress would send him.
     
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  5. rich loc

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    Wasn't a sure thing it was gonna happen, other states already postponed.
     
  6. JohnR

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    You keep writing that, although Florida has voted Dem two of the past three Presidential elections, and all three contests were very close, as were the recent Senate and governor races. Of course it is a battleground state.

    Iowa looks to be light red.
     
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  7. rich loc

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    Biden out here handing out crumbs.
     
  8. JohnR

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    As are other states. People keep writing as if everything that happened the previous election will repeat, in this case meaning that Trump will retain every single state that we won last time. Well, you know, it doesn't work like that, as Hillary found out when relying on the states that Obama had won in 2012.

    Trump could well win Wisconsin and lose, say, Florida and Georgia, in which case he would be whupped.
     
  9. charlie15

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    #13484 charlie15, Apr 9, 2020
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    In the context of the three midwest states, Wisconsin is the most wide open now and for various reasons. The other two may be out of reach quickly for Trump. Fl, NC are in play and a wild card may be Az with Mark Kelly leading largely there in the Senate race. I expect the Mc Cain to endorse Joe there too.
     
  10. JohnR

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    Oh, I agree. I'm just reading too many comments that act as if those three states are the only ones in play. Not so. It's deeply unlikely that the other 47 states plus DC would vote exactly as they did in 2016, with no changes.

    But I guess you did not intend that, so never mind.
     
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  11. Walia Ibex

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    Florida statewide is a Republican bastion. From the state legislature, to the governorship including two very right wing U.S senators. You are right Obama winning FL twice is and was an aberration based on his dynamic abilities as a politician. Prior to Clinton winning FL in 96 the state has been consistently red.

    Now races are very close in terms of margins but weirdly enough every race for govenor, Senate and president comes within 1-2 % points yet the GOP always wins hmmm funny how that always occurs lol

    Florida currently is a very Trumpian state shits its basically his home state. Now that I think about it Flordia man is the POTUS. I say he wins florida by 3-6% points.

    Georgia will be closer than FL.
     
  12. appoo

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    Random though - Warren & AOC tag teaming economic policy. With Warren in Treasury and AOC as Commerce.

    Especially think AOC would learn a ton from both Biden and Warren, and I think Biden can help moderate her trade stances.

    Would love to see AOC evolve to the point where she's well rounded enough to run for President, and win.
     
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  13. appoo

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    You're literally making up conclusions without evidence.
     
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  14. Boandlkramer

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    I like her, but she’s already been elevated to boogey man level by the wingnuts
     
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  15. Walia Ibex

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    Name one red state "Romeny state" that Hillary won in 2016?

    Name one red Mccain state that Hillary won in 2016.

    Name one Red Mccain state that Obama won in 2012?

    Name one Red Bush state that Kerry won in 2004?

    I think New Hampshire but who knows lol

    Red states are pretty damn consistent. Only Obama charismatic and historic breaking election flipped many red states in 2008.

    So yes 45-47 states are irrelevant let me know when Biden is campaigning in Missouri and Trump is campaigning in Maryland then I might change my mind. But I doubt it.
     
  16. Walia Ibex

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    Prove me wrong! You can't ! look up the facts buddy. Not my job to provide you with things you can easily verify by google.
     
  17. appoo

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    I can prove that the data you're using doesn't remotely support the conclusions you're making. It's called election history from 2016 and 2018.
     
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  18. JohnR

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    For the record on Florida -

    2000 dead heat
    2004 Red by 5.0 points
    2008 Blue 2.8
    2012 Blue 0.9
    2016 Red 1.6

    If Trump and the Republicans had cried "I quit" upon seeing such numbers, they never would have won Wisconsin, PA, and Michigan which were bluer than Florida is red.

    I'm pretty sure that Biden and team won't be conceding Florida, not at all.
     
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  19. song219

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    FL is no more Republican than the nation as a whole. In the past 50 years there has only been one election where the winner of FL didn't become president and that was in 1992 when Bush carried FL. While the Republicans have had a hold on the governorship lately, there is no long history of FL being red. Prior to Jeb Bush being elected in '99 there were only 2 republican governors in FL in the 20th century.
     
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  20. Walia Ibex

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    Trump will win by Bush 04 numbers 3-5 points and 300k victory margin book it!
     
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    That's because it was part of the solid segregationist South. Ever since the rise of the suburban Sunbelt in the 80s Florida has been consistently Republican on a state, local and federal level and you know it!
     
  22. Walia Ibex

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    Refute this @JohnR you can't!
     
  23. song219

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    You are cherry picking. It's an aberration when a Democrat wins but it is not an aberration when a Republican wins. It's alright to dislike Florida, I dislike Florida. It doesn't make it ok to bend or make up facts.
     
  24. dapip

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    Any state within margin of error is a battleground state:


    Colorado −4.91%
    Maine −2.96%
    Nevada −2.42%
    Minnesota −1.52%
    New Hampshire −0.37%

    Michigan 0.23%
    Pennsylvania 0.72%
    Wisconsin 0.77%
    Florida 1.20%
    Nebraska, 2.24%
    Arizona 3.55%
    North Carolina 3.66%

    I'd venture to say that Florida might be the tiping point, but if not, NC will be a valuable backup. Bear in mind, that even if Il Douche is underperforming in all these states by lets say 3 points compared to 2016, 8 of them are still statiscally tied and an upset is still possible.

    My point is that for the other 38 (and possible 4 more from the above list) we pretty much know the outcome. Is in the purple states, where republicans still weild some power over the elections, where we will see most of the shenanigans, just like we witnessed in Wisconsin.
     
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  25. JohnR

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    Not just in Florida, he is doing that with every state. It's like watching Fox.
     
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