The 2018 World Cup

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  1. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    I don't agree. I think we are somewhere around fifth or sixth place among the remaining teams.
     
  2. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    It would be real nice and really good for football if we had a new winner this year. Spain, Brazil, Germany and Italy always winning it gets boring after a while
     
  3. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Not exactly a convincing start by Brazil so far :eek:
     
  4. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Fagner and Luis look vulnerable against Mexico's wingers
     
  5. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Mexico are standing strong against Brazil but don't know if it will last in the 2nd half.
     
  6. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I just breathed a HUGE sigh of relief.

    Deserved goal btw
     
  7. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    The Mexicans ran themselves into oblivion first 25 min. of the game, and now they look a bit tired already
     
  8. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Decent enough match by Mexico but Brazil have too much talent.
     
  9. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'm $500 richer!!! :thumbsup:
     
  10. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    don't understand why de Bruyne is playing as a holding mid in a double pivot. Move him up into the attacking area with Hazard.
     
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  11. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    WOW!! Exciting match for Belgium. Will they have enough gas left in the tank for Brazil? They need to improve their tactics.
     
  12. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    This world cup is NUCKING FUTS so far!!!
     
  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    In your heart you know you want Belgium to win it all.
     
  14. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I actually dont. The thought of them winning it before we do makes me sick to my stomach :eek:
     
  15. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Another PK shootout thriller.
     
  16. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    Of the 8 QF, Brazil, Uruguay and Sweden have the best 3 defenses. Sweden may be 1 of weakest team on paper but it is well organized and disciplined team so I think England will have their hands full. I still think Brazil is the favourite based on what Tite has done. I like what Belgian coach did against Japan. When you could not penetrate try with cross and heading (and those subs paid off). I'm not surprised if Russia found a way to advance to the final 4 because they are the host and the home fans and possibly their president. I would not have guessed 1 of Russia, Croatia, Sweden and England will be in the final.
     
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  17. Parel

    Parel Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Club:
    NAC Breda
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Same here to be honest. In fact, any other new team winning it before we do would be tough to bear, considering how close we came in 1974, 1978 and 2010. Really hope Brazil or France win it to be honest.

    Guess it isn't all doom and gloom for Oranje after all. Outplayed Sweden over both qualifying matches and were it not for Lloris and Dost's disallowed goal we'd have finished above them. And now after knocking out Italy, Sweden have topped their group and are close to a semifinal or final appearance..
     
  18. Parel

    Parel Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Club:
    NAC Breda
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    This seems to happen whenever Holland aren't there :( Like the last time in 2002..
     
  19. ragnars

    ragnars Red Card

    PSV Eindhoven
    Iceland
    Jun 28, 2018
    It shouldn't be as big a surprise as it seemed. For Japan, a better showing than before in this World Cup is all that seemed to matter. They knew they'd get over the line in qualifying, just because they always find a way, and there is no need to expend unnecessary energy in doing so, especially when the core of your team aren't so young any more. What happened in the Poland match was clearly in order to conserve energy more than anything else. It really was the safest decision, because Mane and Senegal haven't looked so lethal as one might expect, and Colombia's physicality would have been a match for Senegal's - so it would not be so likely for Senegal to score with little time left. Japan after all was able to wear out Senegal in the latter stages of the match and Niang and Mane's influence faded as the match approached its end, allowing Japan to secure a draw. But of course I am sure the manager was having someone getting live status on that match to see whether Japan needed to go for an equaliser against Poland.

    As for getting rid of their manager not long before this World Cup, It doesn't seem like a bad idea to distill all his ideas, and tweak them. Kagawa, Honda, Nagatomo, Inui, Hasebe and maybe others along with the technical director Nishino would probably have decided tactics and preparation by committee,

    Martinez was clearly left with no options but to use Fellaini, and this was of course the obvious last resort. Martinez said that Japan's tactics were "perfect". I actually agree, but it seems clear that some of the details of situational execution important for seeing out the match might have been overlooked, and even Nishino admitted that the counterattack caught him by surprise. He was probably only thinking about what to do during the extra time.

    As for the pretournament and prematch preparation, it seemed to me that they maximised all their resources and recovered as well as they could from their third group match, which was played in what was probably the hottest conditions in this tournament yet - 36 degree air temperature, and even hotter on the pitch. What some observers claim was a farcical approach in their trying to preserve their yellow card advantage was actually the only way to ensure that their physical state would at least give them hope against a side that was able to play a low stakes match in their final group match in 21 degree temperatures.
     
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  20. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    If KNVB, Hiddink, Blind, Advocaat did not mess it up then it could have been Netherlands in the 4th final appearance...:rolleyes:
     
  21. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I put $100 on Brazil making the semi's.

    Return is $50
     
  22. Parel

    Parel Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Club:
    NAC Breda
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Although I of course wasn't at all happy with the 4-0 in France, I can't really blame Advocaat too much for our failure to qualify when compared to the others. He took over when we were already in an unenviable position in the group, and after his first match in charge the error from Lloris already screwed things up royally because it meant that we couldn't even safely play for a draw in France. (In retrospect a draw would have been enough, but it absolutely wasn't clear for most of the match because Sweden could have easily gotten a result in Bulgaria). And the surprising capitulations of Belarus and Luxembourg to concede a total of twelve goals against Sweden was also something he really couldn't control. The damage was certainly already done by Blind :(
     
  23. Parel

    Parel Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Club:
    NAC Breda
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Fingers crossed. Brazil should have enough to get past Belgium. But after Belgium's wake up call against Japan they'll be playing more defensively than they otherwise would have done. Will be an interesting game in any case.
     
  24. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    get ready to lose your money
     
  25. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'll still be up $400, and I'm convinced Brazil will come back 2-2
     

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