Terrorists welcome to the Us! The softist nation on the planet...

If that's how your system set up to work, so be it.

You can't convict people based on emotion, can you?

 

9-11 is already a distant memory, I'm afraid.

 

I don't get it- are you upset that accused terrorists are trying to defend themselves?

 

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What are you a terrorist or something?

 

What are you a Freeper or something?

 

We have the benefits in our court system because it's a better system than the alternative. Sorry, boston, but suggestions like this are what helped make "the terrorists have already won" a cliche.

 

Remember, when American soldiers are captured by foreign forces during an armed conflict, they are prisoners of war. But when foreign solders are captured by American forces during an armed conflict, they are enemy combatants, or possibly even just plain terrorists.

Everyone needs to keep up with the latest nomenclature in order to understand why we're all so angry about this.

 

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Of course they're using our court system- we're the ones prosecuting them. Did you want them to use New Zealand's court system?

 

Ted Olsen chimes in with his usual erudite prose...

Ah, yes, we shouldn't follow Geneva because they are unprincipled and savage. What, do they not know how to properly use the soup spoon in the Gitmo mess hall?

 

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I'd rather use a kangaroo court system...hehehe

 

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Ashcroft could have done it right from the start. Lord knows there were plenty of pundits telling Ashcroft to simply follow the law. He had every chance not to blow it. If the terrorists walk, it is 100% Ashcroft's fault.

And that "higher purpose" is why our country has endured for 225 years.

 

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that's a bit like saying that rapists shouldn't be allowed to be tried in court, because people who commit rape don't deserve rights. A nice line in emotive reasoning, which swiftly sidesteps the purpose of a trial in the first place - to determine a defendent's guilt (or not). Perhaps you think that the fact that they are in the camp is proof enough that they are terrorists.

 

Maybe he has a little reason to be PISSED OFF!

 

Yes, and personal vengeance has always been the cornerstone of our justice system.

 

If he can't handle it, he can quit his job and go home and be pissed off.
What's John Ashcroft's excuse for trying to dump the Constitution down the toilet? Did Al-Quada run over his puppy?

 

For that very reason he should either recuse himself from this case, or resign. We do not want victims' families making public policy decisions.

 

That this is even before the Supreme Court shows what a mess we have made.

Bush made the schoolboy remark that we were attacked by those who "hate our freedoms." But his domestic strategy is to repress our freedoms.

Each of the guys in Cuba may be a terrorist guilty of a federal or international crime (i doubt it, though. Many were just impressionable and bought the horrific Taliban or al Queda line). What are you guys scared of? Justice?

 

Yeah, now I can't bring my Swiss Army key chain on an airplane.

 

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So am I right in saying you're upset that these people are asking for their cases to be heard in a civilian court, that would hear evidence for and against detention/inprisonment with lawyers representing the defendant ?. How about this for a revolutionary idea, we try to establish whether or not the people are/were working for Al-Queda and the Taliban, then inprison them if found guilty.

Sure, we need to get tough on terrorism, but to just dump people in a prison camp with no legal represetation, contact with their families etc. is hardly going to be great PR in the battle for 'hearts and minds'. This continued suspension of rights would only compound the problems of Muslim perceptions of the USA and the West. And the prisoners would achieve an iconic status amongst such people.

 

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Hmmm - wonderful assumption, considering that the general population has no idea of who they are, where they were caught, what they were charged with, etc. We only have the word of the CIA, Rummy, Cheney, Ashcroft and Bush.

Trying to choose which one of those is worthy of our trust is like trying to pick which fascist dictator to invite to your bachelor party.

 

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Well, Hitler was a teetotal vegetarian, so he'd hardly get into the spirit of the occaision. I'd pick the gurning dwarf Mussolini.