Teams with the most fans!

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  1. Pingudo

    Pingudo New Member

    Nov 18, 2003
    Santa Cruz
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    These are the teams I have as being the most popular in s. america + mex. They normally play the local derby in their corresponding leagues. One is normally the team of the "people" the other is the team of the more affluent.

    .....team of the people...........of the more affluent
    bra: flamengo..........................fluminense
    bra: corinthians........................sao paolo
    bra: gremio.............................internacional
    bra: cruzeiro...........................atl mineiro
    arg: boca................................river
    bol: bolívar.............................the strongest
    chi: colo colo...........................u. chile
    col: millonarios.........................santa fe
    col: america cali.......................deportivo cali
    col: medellin............................atl. nacional
    ecu: barcelona.........................emelec
    ecu: aucas..............................LDU quito
    par: cerro porteño....................olympia
    per: alianza lima.......................universitario
    uru: peñarol...........................nacion al
    ven: caracas fc........................no famous derby
    mex: america mexico city........cruz azul/UNAM pumas
    mex: guadalajara chivas...........atlas
    mex: monterrey.......................UANL Tigres

    Is this accurate? or am I way off?
     
  2. danmarce

    danmarce Member

    May 8, 2004
    Quito, Ecuador
    Ecuador:

    Barcelona 29%-30%
    LDU Quito 21%
    Emelec 20%

    The rest of ALL the other teams only shares the 30%

    "El calisco del astillero", Barcelona - Emelec, the most important derby in Guayaquil...

    In Quito there is not a real derby, LDU Quito - Aucas is a devaluated classic...
    The most important match in Quito is LDU Quito - Dep. Quito or LDU Quito - El Nacional.

    Actually, the most important match in Ecuador is LDU Quito - Barcelona, because is like a "match" between Quito and Guayaquil (but don't tell anyone)
     
  3. kaviedes_freak

    kaviedes_freak New Member

    Oct 1, 2004
    Toronto
    true, I am a Barcelonista, but at the same time, I really respect, and sadly have to admit, LDU is the supperior side. :cool:
     
  4. america has like almost 10 million fans
     
  5. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  6. italchacao

    italchacao New Member

    Mar 18, 2002
    Austin TX
    replace caracas with tachira.
     
  7. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    in mexico is america vs chivas (only)

    in colombia is DIM vs ATl. Nacional, but america vs dept cali is interesting.
    20 yrs ago it was santa fe vs Millonarios (now they r poor and mis-managed)
     
  8. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    sounds like the austin powers bit...one billion dollars...


    i gotta say, i've been watching ecuador leagues games in recent months and they've got a great hincha...
     
  9. well you got the majroity of cali which is around 3-5 million not mention the people in the valle which population is around 7 million people so lets just take around half of that 5 million

    then lets take a small population of about maybe 20% of all other colombians now polls have shown that america has almost %40 of popular support in colombia taking that figure yo ucan easily fit together 10 million or more supporters
     
  10. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    so all of Cali is loyal to América? yup that sure makes 10 million.......;)
     
  11. Gustav

    Gustav Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    here & there
    Colombia has 40 million people??? 20% of that would be 8million. So if 20% of colombians are america fans then maybe.
     
  12. 45 milliion we have but polls show america around 40 percent rounded

    other ones show 30 rarely do they go under 25

    america doesnt have all of cali as fans but the majority cali is a big city i would call it around 5 million counting around 3.5 million of those as american fans...plus considering valle de cauca state alone as 7 million we have around 65% of that state to us throught stadium polls

    25% to cali and another 10% to cortulua
     
  13. CharlieBrown

    CharlieBrown New Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    FL
    Who do polls show is the second and third most popular team?
     
  14. second is nacional with around 20 percent of popular support 3rd is a straight tie between D.I.M. and Dep Cali with 11 percent each santa fe and millionarios come close to althought being in a big city they do not have much national support leaving them with 7 and 5 percent of the publics support respectively

    after that its really all to the birds....
     
  15. DNA

    DNA Member

    Jul 4, 2004
    Los Angeles
    kinda off. I wouldn't say America is a team of the people. Just because they have many fans doesn't mean that theyre a team of the people. America and Chivas as well as Cruz Azul are owned by Big Companies and they aren't a peoples team. Exception on Chivas though as many "patriotic" mexicans support them as they are an ALL Mexican squad. Honestly many fans of America and Cruz Azul outside of Mexico City who aren't from there are just glory hunters. It doesn't necessarily make them a team of the people. I would fix your list as follows:

    mex: America, Cruz Azul........UNAM Pumas
    mex: guadalajara chivas...........atlas, UAG Tecos
    mex: UANL Tigres.......................Monterrey
     
  16. Ariel_Inter

    Ariel_Inter New Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Porto Alegre
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    inter x gremio

    + 10 millons
     
  17. CharlieBrown

    CharlieBrown New Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    FL
    Only that gremio will be playing in the 2nd division come next year!
     
  18. Ariel_Inter

    Ariel_Inter New Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Porto Alegre
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    es verdad....no tenera mas classicos en el brasileno,solo por lo estadual....

    6 pontos a minos para niter en el brasileno :D
     
  19. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
    Don't be unfair. There will still be Gre-Nau: Grêmio x Náutico! :D
     
  20. Caturro

    Caturro Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Chile
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    In Chile:

    Colo Colo - 30%
    U. de Chile - 30%
    Rest - 40%

    In Chile there are 2 teams "of the people", which are CC and U de Chile. The rich team is Catolica, but they don't have nearly as many fans as the first two, though they still have a sizeable, loyal following. All the other respective teams (outside the capital) are supported in their cities but there are many province folks who still root for the top two.
     
  21. Ariel_Inter

    Ariel_Inter New Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Porto Alegre
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    ahora solo tiene gremio x nautico-gre x Nau :D :D

    hehehehee

    adios gremio!

    dalhe inter!
     
  22. Corinthiano

    Corinthiano New Member

    Nov 30, 2003
    Alfenas-BR
    It is not this well. The rival greater of the Corinthians is the Palmeiras, the São Paulo comes soon behind the Palmeiras in rivalry terms.
    The Brazilian classic greaters are:

    SÃO PAULO

    Corinthians x Palmeiras
    Corinthians x São Paulo
    Corinthians x Santos
    Palmeiras x São Paulo
    Palmeiras x Santos
    São Paulo x Santos
    Ponte Preta x Guarani

    Rio de Janeiro

    Flamengo x Fluminense
    Flamengo x Vasco
    Flamengo x Botafogo
    Fluminense x Vasco
    Fluminense x Botafogo
    Vasco x Botafogo

    Minas Gerais

    Cruzeiro x Atletico MG
    Cruzeiro x America MG
    Atletico MG x America MG

    Rio Grande do Sul

    Gremio x Inter
    Gremio x Juventude
    Inter x Juventude

    Parana

    Atletico PR x Parana
    Atletico PR x Coritiba
    Parana x Coritiba

    Bahia

    Vitoria x Bahia

    Para

    Paysandu x Remo

    Santa Catarina

    Criciuma x Figueirense
     
  23. Corinthiano

    Corinthiano New Member

    Nov 30, 2003
    Alfenas-BR
    Corinthians ---- approximately 30 million.
     
  24. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    A little sidenote,

    In most, if not all, of these countries the "people's team" is also the one with the most number of fans. There is at least one exception though.

    In Peru the "people's team" (Alianza Lima) has fewer fans than the "affluent" team (Universitario).

    Polls usually show Universitario at around 35-38% and Alianza at 30-33%. Peru isn't exactly overflowing with "affluent" people so it can be argued that la U is the true "people's team" although it's hard to change decades-old perceptions.

    Any other countries with this situation?
     
  25. CharlieBrown

    CharlieBrown New Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    FL
    Isn't a university team considered a team of the "affluent"? An overwhelmingly large number of poor people don't go to universities in south america (I was told)
     

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