Team name/badge/colors/uniforms/ideas...

Quite the contrary. Everyone that's met me in meatspace from BigSoccer loves me and wants to buy me drinks.

At this point, you could just admit that you really had no idea that it might be offensive to Indians to grab some of their culture and/or religion and slap it on your poorly thought out logo/badge. You could have admitted you had no grasp of the rising tide against such logos, team names, and the economic and social backlash against "designers" that have essentially been co-opting Indian imagery because, you know, "Buckskin/Feathers are the New Black".

Or you can just go play with Photoshop some more and wonder why some Indians might be offended that they're the only ones who get "honored" by such jackassery.

 

I'm not pissed about the flag in the least. I am in favor of ridding this country of every Indian sports moniker. We're not here to be anyone's mascots.

Funny that it's always done to "honor" Indians, and no one else gets to put up with it.

Yeah. Slavery, Ethnic Cleansing, Assimilation, and a Civil War didn't bring this country down, but letting racist sports logos, names & mascots die out is going to kill us.

That and letting "teh gheys" get married.

So, I'm told.

 

Then don't get pissed Zuran, he made clear he did it since its on the flag as a symbol. Most people don't associate names like Redskins and Indians as having any connection to the past wrongs, they're simply team names. It's when people try to make it an issue that people get pissed and defend the names. Guess next up is changing the Milwaukee Brewers because it reminds them of Schlitz

 

An Indian that cares, this is the first time I have seen that since that crying Indian commercial.

 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/amyodell/victorias-secrets-native-american-gaffe-continue

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...n-normalizes-oppression-Native-Americans.html

http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-12-16...es-in-dallas-fashion-show-kind-of-apologizes/

Sorry. Our cultures are not a trend, nor are they a clip art library for dickholes to use. Did his feelings get hurt? Too bad.

Really?

That sucks for them, I guess. I guess what people that like to keep these names don't get is that we're all just a bit tired of it. Now that pretty much every other minority doesn't have to put up it, I guess we're just the last group that people want to keep their bigotry for, just a little bit longer.

You know that guy was Italian, right? Played Indian just to get in the movies.

Kinda like that coach that the Redskins are supposedly trying to honor. Not Sioux.

Nevertheless, trust me, we care, we always have, you're just been ignoring us, pretending we're all dead, like the Vikings I suppose.

After a century and a half of first having the dominant culture try to scrub and erase out cultures, languages, customs out of existence though Assimilation, watching sometimes the last people who spoke their tribal language as their first or only language slowly die off, then followed by the appropriation of elements of those cultures though cartoonish caricatures and Hollywood stereotypes, yeah, we're a bit tired of it. We just have the ability to put that message out there now w/o anyone being able to suppress it. Thank you Al Gore, for the internet.

Sorry I have to give you clowns a history lesson every few weeks. Eventually, you'll all learn and we can move on as a country and just start referring to each other as "Americans".

 

While I might not have been as caustic as you in my reply, I agree with what you are saying in spirit about the misappropriation of Native American symbols and use of offensive names for sports teams. I have no doubt that he only used the feathers because they are in the state flag, genuinely meaning no offense, and as a Native American myself, have no issue with. It's paying tribute to something that is closely related to the state, which is the same thing the flag does, not creating a caricature.

As far as everything else you've mentioned, I agree. Sadly, the feelings towards Native Americans in this country will never change, we both know that. As a demographic who has suffered through marginalization and genocide, to near extinction, we have become nothing more, in the minds of the average American who, without a hint of hypocrisy rails against the evils of immigrants, than caricatures who can be appropriated for whatever product they happen to be selling.

 

It's a gift

You're entitled to your opinion on the subject, but not meaning any offense, doesn't mean that something isn't offensive. And while it is closely related to the State, it's also related to the state because of forced relocation. Allowing it continue, however benign, gives a toe hold to those who hold names like Redskins & Savages so dear, not to mention those that so easily shit all over NDN culture for profit or hipster cred.

I thought like that once too, but given the ever declining support for such imagery, names, etc, I have hope that Chief Wahoo will be buried and the r3dskins name will be retired in my lifetime. But it won't happen if I don't work to make it so, all while working to rescue the culture that was so hated for so long, only to become branding & mockery.

 

So, how about that name/badge/colors/uniform ideas?
Any updates?

 

Nope. No updates about anything.
OKC NASL website; nothing.
OKCFC website: nada.
NPSL website: zilch.
Just, "I've heard from someone, who knows someone, who used to sleep with one of the guys, that there's going to be an announcement soon..." Been hearing that for about a month now. Getting tired of waiting, personally. And I've been one of the people sticking my neck out around here for this team. I'm starting to not really care.
In this day and age of social media, you can float info VERY easily. No one is saying crap! That doesn't look good. And with Jacksonville giving their team name/colors today, and with the nRg ready to start a season soon, it looks EVEN WORSE!
To paraphrase Erin Brockovich, "I don't know know where they went to marketing school, but the SUCK at it!"

 

Even just something regarding the NPSL would be a sign of life at this point.

Speaking of which, how often do teams say from Oklahoma play a team, say from Baltimore? My wife's all time favorite DCU player will be coaching a Baltimore NPSL team

 

It would only be if they both got to, probably, the national semi-finals. even though there has been NO announcement from the team people, the NPSL has already put out a schedule with OKC FC on it?!? The South Central Region is broken up into North and South, with the teams playing everyone in their division twice, and the teams in the other division once.

 

Ah, okay.

 

That's what made me revisit this thread. I saw the Jacksonville unveiling and was impressed. Nice colors, strong logo.

It made me want to see something exciting from the OKC NASL camp. I thought I read a few weeks ago that they met with a design team regarding colors & logo.

It would only take a few tweets to let people know the wheels are still moving.

 

That's what I mean!! How f'ing hard is it to simply say, "Stay tuned" every now and then??!!?

 

Maybe, with the rumored pull out of McLaughlin, there is nothing to say. He seemed, at least the way it was explained to me, the driving force behind the soccer push, and if he is really gone, maybe so is the team?

That would be a terrible thought though, because there are a lot of passionate fans who are going to miss having something they can support in the city.

 

Is it naive to think that group of fans would give the usl pro side a chance?
I've read manu's stance and reasoning enough times to understand where he's coming from. Totally get it.
But is that too much to overcome to see some live soccer? Not flaming, just asking.

 

Even Nashville FC has a better grasp on social media than OKC NASL!

 

Personally, I'm willing to support all the teams, although I have been a part of OKCFC's group from the start and have been a solid supporter of the NASL effort.

I do know that a few people feel poisoned and burned by the twists and turns, false starts and various actions taken by the groups to the point that they're abandoning all the teams and focusing on MLS.

The more I see and hear from Energy, the less skeptical I become. I do plan on attending as many of their games as I can, and if they're the team left at the end of the day, they're my team.

I wanted a team in Oklahoma City, and I'm getting three. If I'm left with one, so be it.

 

Here is the Jacksonville Armada FC logo that was unveiled today.

 

Can the Tulsa shit not stay in the Tulsa fora?

 

Where is the Tulsa fora?

 

Anywhere not in the OKC fora/threads