Team choice and Tryouts

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by tdbwins, Apr 30, 2021.

Tags:
  1. justanothersoccerdad

    Apr 5, 2021
    Even though high-school soccer has its issues, I agree. One of the positive aspects of it, which I'm looking forward to seeing, is the opportunity for player reinvention that it provides. My player has primarily been an outside back and defensive midfielder on her club teams, but on the high school team, I have a sense that she's going to be getting time at the wing. Her school is a regional power, but they're losing 8-9 seniors off of this year's strong squad. The coach has already indicated to me that he will be leaning on the incoming '07s quite a bit, so it's a great opportunity for her and the incoming freshmen.
     
    bigredfutbol repped this.
  2. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    100% spot on.

    My 05 has played outside wing or defender for club since she was 6. In high school she was put in as center forward and played a false 9 and managed to fool the defense and grab 3 goals this season. She has also played attacking mid and defensive mid - which she is struggling with but the coach is forcing the issue. She hates it but it will give her more experience on the field for sure.
     
  3. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013
    A couple of the teams my son's been around (one summer-only team in particular comes to mind) have had this problem. I get not wanting to devote every weekend to this, but when you sign up, understand that you're making a commitment to mostly be there for practices and games and that other players are counting on you.

    On Volk's questions, my son's tryouts will be late fall, after the (back to normal) fall boys season in our state. That's a long way off, and a cut would leave him with precious few options, particularly at that time of year. Gulp.
     
    bigredfutbol repped this.
  4. ctsoccer13

    ctsoccer13 Member+

    Mar 25, 2002
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry, I think I wasn't clear enough. My daughter is seventh grade and all her teammates are 8th grade. Some of her teammates are going to play high school starting in the fall. The rest of the team will be put into a group to practice and play games at her current club. But the teams they were set to play are much older so there's no real plan for the younger girls. That combined with some other factors has us (including my daughter) wondering if it's the right place for her. Coaches have been exiting, facilities falling behind and other conversations make me wonder if this club actually has a direction or if it's just winging it. My daughter fully intends to play high school next year. After seeing her brother's experience in high school she definitely will play. She was actually considering quitting the Girl's Academy because at the time they didn't allow for them to play high school. Some of the play at the HS level can be quite awful. But there's a lot more to the HS experience that outweighs that negative. Especially considering they only play for 2 1/2 months.
     
    VolklP19 repped this.
  5. tdbwins

    tdbwins New Member

    PSG
    United States
    Jan 28, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OP here - ironically, some concern now that the team was overly optimistic and turned away a few mid tier players (not my son) after tryouts and are now scrambling to fill the roster.

    I see a lot of good things, especially now that DA is dead and the club kids can play, about high school soccer. We've always planned on participating.

    But what about middle school? Just steer clear and stick with club? If we could do something like games only maybe, are such arrangements likely? I know it takes practices and time together for chemistry, but the season is so short that seems unlikely regardless.
     
  6. sam_gordon

    sam_gordon Member

    Feb 27, 2017
    Talk to the coaches. For my kids, the club coaches would rather they didn't play MS ball, but didn't stop them, PROVIDING the club came first. Which means if there's a club practice or game, that takes priority. Both MS coaches understood that (they each had a number of select players) and would roster more players than normal.
     
  7. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #57 bigredfutbol, Jun 7, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2021
    Depends on your situation, your standing with your club, etc.

    For my son, MS soccer was a godsend--right when his club career was at it's worst (and I was worried he would give up on his only serious activity on the cusp of adolescence), along came the opportunity to be a key player getting lots of minutes, and plenty of attention from his coach.

    The soccer itself was absolutely dire--but he made friends in his own school who loved the sport (none of his club teammates went to his ES, and none of his grade school friends were much interested in soccer at all), which led to pickup games, FIFA video gaming, watch parties for pro games, etc. MS soccer was his gateway to being part of a genuine soccer culture, and reaffirmed his sense of being part of it. Right when short-sighted club soccer higher-ups were in the process of possibly weeding him out.

    BUT--that's not the only path, nor would it necessarily work out for everybody. Full disclosure--he went to a MS that was over 35% Hispanic and another 15-20% African & Asian, so he ended up being teammates with a lot of first- and second-generation immigrant kids who usually didn't play travel soccer, but did have older siblings and family members who played pickup for fun. It was a far cry from the overwhelmingly white/middle-class world of club soccer which he came from. So--an important caveat. I wouldn't universalize his experience by any means.
     
  8. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Standing pat at new club for next year... didnt know where else to go...experiencing buyers remorse.
    Second club where coach has made him play as a striker even though hes primarily a winger.
    Getting better in the middle and resigned to the fact but extremely frustrated as mates cannot get him the ball. Coach then says due to his frustration he cannot promote him to next group at this time.
    Wtf.
    Also second club where I proposed coaches let him play wingback as he has played there and is way faster than all but maybe academy players at that postion...
    Shot down both times.
    Double standard much?
    The more I experience with clubs the more I'm mystified...
    Sorry to rant
     
  9. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    #59 VolklP19, Jun 7, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2021
    It's experience. My kid is a right Def or Forward and she ended up being put in as a center forward, defensive mid and attacking mid all season long for high school. Short of the DM position, she did really well - scoring 4 goals this season compared to 1 goal in total for her club career. She gets frustrated but this experience is worth it IMO. When she goes back to club, she will have a better understanding of the overall game.
     
    ctsoccer13 repped this.
  10. sam_gordon

    sam_gordon Member

    Feb 27, 2017
    So our tryout week isn't going well. Club A's tryouts on Tuesday were cancelled because the fields were underwater when DS was about 75% of the way there. They had put out an email less than two hours previously, after multiple rain storms that tryouts were still on. This club is about 45 minutes from our house.

    Club B's tryouts (90 minutes from home, but a USL Academy) were last night. They got cancelled about an hour in. They did a couple drills and some Rhondo's, no scrimmaging. This is the club DS really wants to play for. He did say he was the only one "talking" during the Rhondo's and the coach made a comment on his effort to get a loose ball, so we'll see. He doesn't think he made it. He only got a few touches on the ball.

    Club C tryouts (again about 90 minutes from home) are tonight and Club A's makeup is tomorrow night.
     
    bigredfutbol and CornfieldSoccer repped this.
  11. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013
    Tryouts will build character, patience, and other things, I guess. Good luck to him, and I hope he gets the team he wants.

    I'm sure this is common, but my son has left every tryout he's ever been to sure he may have just blown it and most of them, it turns out, have gone fine.
     
  12. sam_gordon

    sam_gordon Member

    Feb 27, 2017
    Thanks. I think he's more disappointed that last night was cut short. The drills they did were apparently more "offensive based" and he's a defender, so he feels he didn't really get a chance to show what he can do.

    Of course, more than likely, the coaches already know who they want and they're just trying to make sure there's not a surprise at tryouts.
     
  13. TheKraken

    TheKraken Member

    United States
    Jun 21, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tryouts are tough, especially if you're not a known commodity. My son was invited to try out for a MLS academy. He looked like a deer in the headlights. It was rough, but he learned a lot from it.. Keep doing what you do.. There is a reason you are here I told him. Never give up.
     
  14. sam_gordon

    sam_gordon Member

    Feb 27, 2017
    DS found out late last night he didn't make the pool for Club B (the one he really wanted). He couldn't make it to Club C tryouts last night because of storms and traffic, so he's doing Club C AND Club A today.

    Club C is State Champions, and supposed to be merging with club that was the runner up, so that will be a tough row to hoe too.
     
  15. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best of luck to him.
     
  16. sam_gordon

    sam_gordon Member

    Feb 27, 2017
    He ended up signing with Club A. It's going to be a combined 03/04 team and apparently a number of kids he played with before the age change 5 years ago are also joining the team.

    The team he's joining lost 0:1 to the eventual state champions (Club C) in pool play, so they could/should be pretty competitive. At least he has a team for his final year.
     
    CornfieldSoccer and bigredfutbol repped this.
  17. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glad to read this!
     
    sam_gordon and VolklP19 repped this.
  18. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013
    Yep, sounds like it worked out pretty well. Good to hear.
     
    sam_gordon repped this.

Share This Page