Summer 2022 Transfer Thread - What's next???

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  1. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You may be right. My perspective was that 2500+ minutes at another club would be better than 1500 minutes for us. However, I can see the value of continued work with Arteta.

    I could see that. I mentioned previously that I don't see Xhaka leaving at this point unless it is his idea. I think Arteta trusts him.

    You and Carlos may be correct. I was working under the assumption that the opportunity for 1000+ extra minutes would be better for his development. Could easily see a scenario where he sticks around.
     
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  2. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I totally forgot his release clause was so low. That’s insane
     
  3. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, release clause was very reasonable it was the extra 40-50m (combined) you have to pay to his agent and dad plus the high salary. Wondering how his agent dying will impact the extortion fees.
     
  4. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Tbf you’re paying a lot of that stuff for the other players that “cost” 50M too. Maybe not as much as that but still a lot. I mean, what a bargain compared to paying Spurs 120M for Kane. As a club they dodged a massive landmine on that Kane deal IMO
     
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  5. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I see lokonga as an 8. He’s shown some good bursts forward and is a decent passer

    I’m happy with elneney and Partey as the 6
     
  6. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It still made sense for Dortmund to do that deal - they get a set 40m profit after three years.
     
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  7. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Italian media is claiming that the Sporting Director from Bologna is coming to London tomorrow to speak with several teams about 3 of his players. One of those meetings is supposedly with Arsenal in regards to Aaron Hickey.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yes it was a shop window deal that BVB specialise in - essentially a JV with Raiola where BVB and Raola share the transfer fee when a mega-bucks team comes calling.

    This is how BVB get these elite talents to sign for them in the first place, so makes no sense to cry over it when the scheme worked exactly as planned.
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    They could have sold him for over 100m last summer but player and club decided on the extra year, especially seeing as how BVB sold Sancho in that "shop window".
     
  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    That's the whole point - the club, agent and player share the transfer booty when the mega rich EPL comes calling.

    That was how BVB signed him on such low money in the first place.

    Raiola basically specialised in a form of TPO - it's absurd.
     
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  11. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  12. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Had they signed Kane, they wouldn't have gone for Haaland surely?
    But now they have Haaland, they will bump up the release clause because its pretty well known that Haaland wants to play in Spain at some point as well.
    So City will likely ask Real or Barca for about 100mil minimum in 3 or 4 years time when they come calling.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    These are all the reasons why clubs shouldn't sign Raiola clients. Now he's dead, we have to see what happens with this defacto TPO style behaviour

    I really don't understand why players themselves do this. What value did he add to Pogba, Haaland etc? Yet he rakes off tens of millions. It's completely corrupt.
     
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  14. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  15. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    I'm very, very skeptical of a deal being done for that little. If that's all City want, more clubs will be interested, which will drive a bidding war. So then if the price ends up doubling, is Jesus still the striker Arsenal need to make up a 20 point gap in the table to the leaders?

    Source in Brazil says City want €60m for Jesus but might be willing to accept €50m:
    https://www.si.com/soccer/mancheste...gabriel-jesus-ahead-of-summer-transfer-window
    Mentions Juve and Milan being interested. Romano tweeted this morning that Jesus' agent says 6 other clubs are interested in addition to Arsenal.
     
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  16. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    50mm?! Uff da.
     
  17. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bruno Andrade saying that we are close to an agreement with City for Jesus.
     
  18. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    €50m is about £41.5m, £6.5m more than the £35m number that’s been floating around. If Gabriel pushes to leave he might be available for the lower number.
     
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  19. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I guess by default I assumed they were referencing the same denomination as the 30-35mm figure bandied about earlier. I'm also reacting to the figure in comparison to what they just paid for Haaland.
     
  20. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haaland's was a release clause so it's apples and oranges?

    Surprisingly low release clause for the boy wonder!
     
  21. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But lots of add-ons for agents and dad based on what I've read.
     
  22. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what happens to those agent add-ons when your agent is dead?
     
  23. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So are the sterling links the new draxler links?
     
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  24. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    as draxler was the new donovan link. :D
     
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  25. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Nelson was looking good as his season progressed. I would hope we either bring him back because we will need depth next year with the league cup, FA Cup, European commitments and the league. I feel like he would be behind Saka and Martinelli on either wing depending on where they want to develop him, but he would get in ahead of Pepe who might even get sold.

    If we see him as a long term prospect but not ready yet, send him back on loan.

    Feel like we would be dumb selling him or putting a purchase clause in a loan it might bite us like how the Mavropanos deal is going to cost us at least $10 mil.
     
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