Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

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  1. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Which is the most weird:

    Them being used as swappable
    or
    That is seems to work.
     
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  2. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    emphasis indeed on the "laziness" phrasing ....
     
  3. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    maybe Allegri just is not very wise when it comes to seeing the benefit of national team teammates playing together ....

    Pioli gets it.
     
  4. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For me, Wes is playing his most impactful soccer since arriving at Juventus and has shown to be better than what the backup is offering. That backup just happens to be another YA.

    Rabiot is not playing great but he is contributing goals and Fagioli has probably solidified his position as the other CM over Miretti. Bottom line is Juve's in 3rd place, 2 points back of the Milanese clubs without much reason to shake things up.
     
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  5. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not an Allegri apologist but CP and Musah have started 1 match together.
     
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  6. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    1 > 0. Pioli has done it infinitely more often in competitive matches than Allegri.
     
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  7. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is now Weah’s job to make Allegri think that he needs Wes in midfield.
     
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  8. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I concede, good sir.

    My only regret, that I have but one life to lose for this country.
     
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  9. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1/0 is the infinite question indeed.

    having said that - Yunus subbed in once to join CP I believe.

    so twice now they have played together.
     
  10. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Players play far more games (plus training) with club teamates than NT team teamates. A few games a year with the NT isn't going to develop so much more chemistry between players that it should affect a coach's decisions.
     
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  11. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weah has 33 caps, how many of them were with Wes? Probably 25 at least....agree generally it won't make much of a difference but he has nearly a season of playing with Wes plus all the training camps. I'm not sure if they overlapped at the youth level with Wes a bit older.

     
  12. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Another start seems likely ... Juventus (4th) visiting Atalanta (5th)

    [​IMG]
     
  13. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
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  14. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He indeed starts at RWB. He really locked that position down quickly!

    Forza Wes
    Fino alla fine
     
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  15. Noriega7

    Noriega7 Member

    Newcastle United
    Dec 27, 2017
    Too bad its coming at the expense of Tim which I felt was doing okay as a recent arrival....but good for Wes.
     
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  16. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Big picture it does us no good to have Wes playing RWB and Weah on the bench.

    I salient point however regarding Juve is, if Wes is providing Allegri with what he wants at RWB then Weah was never the type to go after in the transfer market. They are entirely different players.

    I'm glad they dropped points today as I don't support this nonsense.
     
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  17. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really boring game
     
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  18. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Juve was obviously content with the away draw - but even so the lack of offensive ideas was stark.

    I think they might eventually want to find McKennie a role that takes him further from the touch line, because their midfield minus Pogba is a bit uninspiring. Locatelli seems like a very polished player but doesn't really impose himself on the game, Rabiot is inconsistent, Fagioli is meh. McKennie also has his shortcomings, but today Juve looked like they could have benefited from his intensity in a more central position.
     
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  19. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    not in these italian teams, they dont ...which is super frustrating as a usmnt fan

    how many minutes have cp and musah actually played together this season? wes and weah??

    it feels like these clubs are doing a bit of marketing / jersey salesmanship or something odd....
     
  20. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    When I said club teammates, I meant all teamates, not just USNT players. Players can have just as good, or even better, chemistry with non-NT teammates.
     
  21. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I think it is the inverse. Club teammates could be a boost to USMNT, not so much the other way around. I like Wes more as a midfielder, but he appears to have locked down that RWB/RB spot. That isn't a terrible outcome.

    Weah is at least getting run, and so the coach does see something.
     
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  22. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Juventus reverted to being utterly boring this week. I’d hoped they had turned a corner in that regard.
     
  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Clubs actually have their players train together sometimes, I’ve heard.
     
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  24. Hagbard Celine

    Hagbard Celine Member+

    Oct 7, 2003
    Simsbury, CT
    I couldn't even focus on the game it was so boring. I have no idea how Wes played lol.

    My personal opinion is that Allegri gave Weah some starts at RWB and there was something that he didn't like in the performances (he even said as much publicly, I believe). Despite what we thought when we watched Weah, he wasn't following some of Allegri's directions and lost the spot to Wes.

    Now Wes is in a weird spot, because I believe that Allegri won't move him to the midfield until Weah is able to prove to Allegri that he's learned from those mistakes and is ready to start again. Each week I hope those 10 minutes he keeps getting is enough to convince him that he's ready and then maybe Wes will get a sniff of the midfield.

    The other thing I noticed is that Wes tends to stay very wide when he plays RWB, but when Juventus has the ball Weah will cut into the middle of the field. That's such an obvious thing, it has to be instruction from Allegri. Just strange to me that the two play the position so differently. Also, it seems contrary to what I would expect - let Weah stretch his legs on the outside and let the "midfielder" drift central.

    Anyway, I'm probably completely wrong just some observations.
     
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