Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    The other thing to consider, is that this seems to happen quite consistently when you have matchups between Brazil, Argentina, and whichever SA nation is doing well at the moment (Chile, Colombia, Uruguay,etc…)
     
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  2. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Fans crawling through ventilation (?) ducts to gain entry is unlikely to be down solely to CONMEBOL.
     
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  3. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Most events like these have security checkpoints, ticket check and other bottlenecks WAY before you get to the stadium. Usually, these guys don't get anywhere near the stadium to get into the air ducts. Sure, a few always get through, but not enough to cause a delay by 80 minutes and pose a serious security threat.
     
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  4. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only issue I had was that the food/beer line took too long. My thought at the time was that they just didn't have enough, and didn't understand the base audience. Otherwise, it was fantastic, and thought out. At least around the Rose Bowl/Old Pasadena.
     
  5. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Rose Bowl was superbly well organized. Stanford Stadium was a potential death trap: 83k capacity with lots of narrow steep staircases, tunnels and wooden structures. It’s since been demolished and rebuilt into a smaller stadium. Levi’s stadium - a ‘26 venue - has egress issues too but they’re minor in comparison to the old Stanford Stadium.
     
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  6. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Do I ever lie to you guys?
    :)
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  8. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    That video seems to show nothing. People climbing fans one way and then climbing back. I don't get it.
     
  9. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2334 charlie15, Jul 15, 2024
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    That was not a good advert for the WC in 2 yrs time. Complete cluster******** and Commebol has a lot to do with it. Having said that, reading the reports, Miami police didn’t cover themselves in glory either.
    It was sheer luck there were no casualties either. Crowds being pushed and pressed into closed gates is generally a recipe for disaster. In what world people w/out tickets ended up all the way inside the complex? What a shitshow.
     
  10. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2335 charlie15, Jul 15, 2024
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    As a side note, what the ******** with a 25 min half time show? Those clowns on top of world football (FIFA, Commebol etc) have to realize there is no need to copy the NFL and Super Bowl.
     
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  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    THAT needs to never happen again.
     
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  12. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Are you not acquainted with my work?
     
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  13. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I for one would like to say, "Thank you for your service."
     
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  14. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The extra time and the Miami weather are bad enough, but I think the combination of the delay of the starting time and the delay at halftime certainly contributed to the players getting excessively tired and cramping up. It affected both sides, but especially the Colombians, who had the tougher road to the final.
     
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  15. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, and if they are going to emulate the SB, do the show before the match. Less intrusive that way.
     
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  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    More important than the tougher path to the final, I think Argentina just has more depth. The triple sub they made early in extra-time really seemed to turn the tide in their favor. They took out 3 top players yet lost nothing on the quality front and gained a lot of energy.
     
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  17. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I like this, if they insist on doing it.

    Have the 15min show 1-1.5hrs before kickoff. That will get a bunch of people to show up at the stadium early, and then the actual rush for game time will be severely reduced. As long as TV broadcast is live in real time by the start of the 2nd half, no harm done. Streaming has 1-2minute delays all the time anyways.
     
  18. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Right. When Colombia started putting in the River Plate players I knew it was over. :D
     
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  19. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  20. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Right. We can't repeat this enough! I know in the US people love to put on great shows, and Shakira is a great performer, nothing wrong with that. But soccer fans are different. When we go to watch soccer, we want to watch soccer, nothing else. Whoever runs the next WC needs to understand that.
     
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  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It also says something that people without tickets thought they could get in.
     
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  22. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  23. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
  24. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
  25. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah....Paredes, Lo Celso, Lautaro.....
     

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