Soccer in High Def TV (HDTV)

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by Beast_Ed, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. Beast_Ed

    Beast_Ed Member

    Jul 15, 2003
    Boston MetroWest
    I have a dedicated Home Theater with 100" screen Dolby Digital sound and seating for around eleven. My projector supports 964H x 544V Native Resolution with Component Video for HDTV ... this is great for some channels, DVD movies, and what not .. but ...


    Does anyone know how or when or anything about HDTV for Soccer cause ? I'd love to see Fox Sports World & ESPN2 broadcast an HDTV signal .. I'd quit my job, collect unemployment, and stay in the Home Theater 24/7. Bliss !

    If anyone knows anything about this, please reply thanks !

  2. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the moment you're sort of out of luck on this.

    FSW has no HiDef programming and is unlikely to have any in the near future. The FCC mandated that American broadcasters move to the 1080i 16x9 format, and although they've missed three or four deadlines, it's headed in that direction. All US prime time shows, for example, (sitcoms amd dramas) originate in HD.

    European broadcasters have generally not even started this conversion. It's expensive, complicated and in any case it doesn't do any good for you to broadcast in HiDef if nobody has a HiDef receiver, which virtually nobody does.

    There is an ESPN HD channel now, but I have never seen soccer on it. ESPN generally puts their soccer on the deuce and in the case of Champions League, the programming originates as analog in Europe. Unless somebody wants to send an ESPN broadcast truck over there instead of just picking up the feed, it just can't be seen in HiDef.

    The good news, of course, is that Mark Cuban's HDNet is broadcasting one or two MLS games a week, and it's terrific. Spoils you for anything else.

    But I wouldn't hold my breath for much more anytime soon.
  3. Kaputnik

    Kaputnik New Member

    Nov 19, 2004
    You shoudl just get DirecTV or Voom. DirecTV has HDNet, and Voom carries the entire 'La Liga' season in HD.
  4. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    I don't believe its the entire La Liga season....just one or two games per weekend.
  5. kevruth

    kevruth Member

    May 30, 2001
    Perrysburg, Ohio, US
    Dish Network also has HDNet. With Dish Network you get about 4 La Liga matches per week on GolTV which you can't get on DirecTV or Voom.
  6. GutBomb

    GutBomb Red Card

    Aug 28, 2003
    Outside Boston
    the la liga matches on dish network are not HD. the 2 matches per week (which usually are shown live) on voom are in HD on a channel called WorldSport HD. those games are then shown on delay on GolTV later in the week.

    Voom is still too small to use as as a primary provider. Voom and Dish Network together is a good way to get tons of soccer (some in HD on HDNet and World Sport HD and tons in SD on Fox Sports World and GolTV)
  7. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    I've had Voom for about five or six months, and I really dig the HD broadcasts of the Spanish league. In fact, I like all the HD channels. Right now, I'm watching "Mad Max" in HD on one of the movie channels. It's kind of like listening to the Sex Pistols an a really good stereo, if you know what I mean. :)
  8. Ikari

    Ikari Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    Las Vegas, NV
    Cox Cable here in LV has HDnet, and I've been lucky enough to check out a few MLS games in HD. It's a total droolfest, such a lovely picture.
  9. Brrca Fan redded

    Brrca Fan redded Red Card

    Aug 6, 2002
    Chasing Tornadoes.
    I have Voom serivce which has one channel for soocer only, shows laLiga games. Soon they will ad INHD and HDnet which MLS has a three year deal with them. 2005 is the last year with HDnet but hope they sign a new 3 or 5 year deal soon.
    I f I were you I would get the Voom fast. Time Warner's Hd does not look good as the Voom because Voom uses a bigger bandwidth then other cable outlets. The bigger the bandwidth the better the HD picture. :cool:
  10. chayes

    chayes New Member

    Feb 29, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    ESPN2-HD is set to launch in January.

    Question is, will MLS pay the production costs to broadcast the games in HD next season?

    Someone get Garber on the bat phone and ask him.
  11. kevruth

    kevruth Member

    May 30, 2001
    Perrysburg, Ohio, US
    I'd be concerned about getting Voom. At the end of September, Voom had only 35,000 customers and that they'd only added about 12,000 customers in the last six months. Wall Street has told Comcast that they must divest itself of Voom. Voom is loosing too much money. To me this is indication of a company in trouble. Why as customer would you want to risk a lot of money on a satellite company that could go bust? Their equipment isn't free like with DirecTV or Dish Network.

    I also can't understand why they've yet been able to add HDNet? A high def service without one of the original HD channels. Makes no sense to me.
  12. V Funk

    V Funk Member

    Oct 1, 2001
    West Seattle
    Yeah, I've been spoiled by Hi-Def. The worst part is that the EPL games on FSW and the PPV Package look just terrible on my set. The clock and scores in the corner are sometimes even too blurry to read.

    I'm with DirecTV and get all my networks OTA...if I could get that World Sport channel on Voom for like $10/month and free equipment I'd be all over it. But otherwise, I'm not going to jump on the Voom bandwagon for strictly cost reasons.
  13. chayes

    chayes New Member

    Feb 29, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    For those of you with Voom, how's the Playboy Channel in HD? :)
  14. kevruth

    kevruth Member

    May 30, 2001
    Perrysburg, Ohio, US
    Just a correction, Cablevision owns Voom, not Comcast. My bad.
  15. SnakeEyes

    SnakeEyes Member

    Oct 7, 2001
    Actually the mandate is for broadcasters to turn in their analog signal and broadcast a digital signal. They have not mandated 1080i 16x9. Not all sitcoms and dramas originate in HD. The deadline set has been moved back once and currently stands at 2006 or when 75% of all homes have digital signal recieving capabilities.
  16. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've seen lots of gloom and doom posts on other boards like this one but I'm not sure I agree with it.

    I just signed up today for Voom as a secondary provider (I'm keeping TimeWarner as my primary as they will lease me an HD-DVR). It cost me $1.08 (a buck plus tax) for my install. Their current 3-rooms installed for a buck campaign runs through March 1, 2005 I believe, see

    That's not a very big investment. I have a 6 month commitment to Voom and if they go belly-up it's no loss on my part. I agree that when I first looked at Voom 6 months ago, it may have been risky when they made you buy a $500 receiver/dish unit, but now that they are matching Direct/Dish tactics of free installs with a small montly equipment rental fee, there really isn't any risk other than you might have to subscribe to another service if they go under, using a similar free install offer from one of the other guys.

    The way I look at is that Voom is in startup mode. I'd be interested to see how much money Dish or Direct "invested" before they started to show profits. Like the old adage says, "You've got to spend money to make money", right? I figure either Voom will survive as a niche player serving high-end customers wanting maximum HD content or will be gobbled up by someone (like Dish who has yet to make a competitive response to DirecTV's recent announcements about increased HD bandwidth). Either way, Voom subscribers should be fine.

    Honestly, I'd like to see Voom using all of their bandwidth for HD content. I could care less about all the SD channels they offer because other than the NFL network (which I don't care about), I get all the same channels through TimeWarner, my primary provider. Now if I can get good over-the-air digital locals with Voom's antenna and they introduce a DVR that I can lease, then I might consider going "solo" with voom and dropping TWC.

    Also, WorldSportHD is also advertising 1-2 UEFA Cup games a week. I don't think I saw that mentioned anywhere previously.

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