So when will the draft start?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MikeLastort2, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Since we have a huge shortage in the military right now, and Bush will undoubtedly start another unprovoked war within the next four years, when will he start a draft?
     
  2. SgtSchultz

    SgtSchultz Member

    Jul 11, 2001
    Parts Unknown
    Good question. I hope P-Diddy and Eminim get drafted.
     
  3. futbolrey

    futbolrey New Member

    Dec 20, 2002
    Burke, Va
    i hope the religious right gets drafted
     
  4. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't beleive the hype. Congress will never institue the draft again. No politician is dumb enough to suggest it not even Bush. The US military's mission over the last 15 years has been one of downsizing and doing more with less. Quality over quanity. A draft would go against everything the military has structured itself to.

    Let me say agian...the draft will NEVER come back! Stop worring about it!
     
  5. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
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    --other--
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    United States
    me too, for a lot of them anyway.

    i think it'll be in the first quarter. by then, a lot of people on both sides of every aisle in the country will be for it, 'cause it'll be painfully obvious how much we need it (by then).

    just woke up from the couch. did i miss anything? ;)
     
  6. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
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    United States
    He said there will be "No draft" and I suggest you start listening to reason rather than your own propaganda... it was Democrats (D-Charlie Rangel et al.) that started this draft talk...not Republicans! Our president has said no draft and no amount of fanning the flames by you liberal propaganda ministers will change that!

    Tell your leader Kerry to conceed! Bush has won both the electoral and general vote; he is ahead 3.5 million in total votes! You need to support him now! Both the Senate and House are convincingly in Republican hands! Daschle is gone!

    There is no draft... your propaganda did not sell to American voters! Crawl back in your hole!

    IntheNet
    Bush/Cheney in 2004!
     
  7. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you kidding me? This election tells the Republicans that anyone with an "R" in front of his name can do whatever the hell he wants, and as long as he says all the right things come election time his base (the South and the Plains) will vote strong for him. Even if his record shows the exact opposite.

    America is screwed.
     
  8. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have to agree here. It's political suicide to institute a draft. Bush might propose it, but there's now way it gets through congress.
     
  9. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that there won't be one, but it wouldn't surprise me if Bush did propose one in one form or another. Here's my question for you ITN, how many campaign promises will Bush go back on? I'm betting the Iraq election is pushed back, and taxes are raised (he has to, there's now way around it), and social security is hardly touched...that's just for a start. The country will continue on its present course, and that's not a good thing.
     
  10. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    North Ridgeville, OH
    What's more likely - a universally unpopular draft or declaring victory in Iraq and pulling out while its still a clusterfck?
     
  11. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
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    Blackburn Rovers FC
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    United States
    Judge him on his record... what he does... not what you think he will do! If he deviates from his campaign promises, let me hear from you! So far, George W. Bush has been a man running on his record. And MOST of America approves!

    By the way, you can vote him out in 2008...!

    IntheNet
     
  12. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Judging him by his record means he'll go back on plenty of campaign promises.
     
  13. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    The draft naysayers don't understand the situation, it seems.

    Noone is suggesting Bush is going to just start a draft for the heck of it, or even merely to continue the status quo in Iraq. Clearly, he'll just withdraw from there before then.

    But right now, there are about 5 or 6 countries teetering on the brink, and if any of them topple, we would have a whole new front on our hands, and a draft won't be a thing of choice. I mean, how do we avoid going to war with Pakistan if one of the many assassination attempts on Musharraf actually succeeds, as seems almost sure to happen before long?
     
  14. NHRef

    NHRef Member+

    Apr 7, 2004
    Southern NH
    There will be no draft. It was a democrat who brought it up, Bush has said all along that it won't happen.

    As for invading other countries, I don't see it happening. We are in two right now, one we should be there, one is questionable (Iraq), yes the reasons were for the most part valid, but doesn't mean it should have been done as it was done.

    Aside from manpower, another country won't be attacked for the simple reason of politics. Bush took a chance going into Iraq, he had reasons, good, bad and right or wrong, but he had them, he had a foe that the country knew and hated in Sadaam. Another country>? Nope, no foe for the people to get behind getting rid of, simple as that. Unless things change and we get attacked again by terrorists, he won't go somewhere else.

    He will pull out of Iraq SLOWLY over the next couple years.

    Personally I think he's done a good job, but I would love to have seen what kind of president he would have been without the War on Terror. Hopefully we will get to see this over the next four years.
     
  15. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No I understand the issue quite well. Don't propogate this fear, you are making assumtions based on events that have not happened and even if they did happen you are assuming that the government of america would act with a strong military presense and your then assume the only way to act in that way is to send draft cards in the mail to our sons. Military experts do not want the draft they feel it weakens their fighting units and moral. Also no politician wants to have that vote for re-instituting the draft over their heads when their re-election comes back. It would be political suicide.
     
  16. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Relax, people. The tax cuts will solve everything.
     
  17. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    Why waste time with a draft?

    Just give your campaign contributors tax breaks to move all the jobs that don't involve asking if you want fries with that to Shenzen and Bangalore.

    The military will be the only source of jobs with benefits left.

    Personally, I think there should be a draft, but only these people should be eligible:

    -Children & grandchildren of congressmen

    -Children & grandchildren of anyone who works for a federal government contractor who makes more than $50,000 a year.

    -Children & grandchildren of anyone with $500 or more of stock in a company that has federal government contracts.
     
  18. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Are we talking NFL, NBA or MLS draft?
     
  19. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Question: who here is of age to be drafted?
     
  20. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    24. I am. But I'm already in the Guard.
     
  21. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm 31, flat-footed and I have excema.

    Someone else will be dying for W's sins.
     
  22. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Almost 24 with no medical excuses...I need to get into grad school and quick.
     
  23. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I don't think that will cut if for you anymore. Unless at school you'd develop such a specialized skill that you wouldn't really see the 'real Army'. (ie be a lawyer or doctor).

    And I hear that in order to get out for being gay, you 'demonstratable' evidence.
     
  24. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Give me a break, Mike. I know you guys got your faces handed to you for the third election in a row but you don't need to keep beating these dead dogs.

    There's not going to be a draft. Social Security will not be ended. People will not die like dogs in the gutter because they can't get medical care. Homosexuals will not be rounded up and placed in camps. Secret police will not begin arresting anyone who dares to disagree with the President. There will not be a new National Religion with Jerry Falwell as the Archbishop. Millions of people will not be homeless.

    These were all hysteria-building campaign memes. They were all nonsense, they didn't scare nearly enough people and now they're as dead as Caesar.

    They weren't true yesterday, they aren't true today and they won't be true tomorrow.

    Instead of just picking up the drum and continuing on with this hallucinatory nonsense, you really ought to start genuinely asking yourself why the American people, in ever-increasing numbers, don't think the left knows what it's talking about.
     
  25. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spottswoode : "Now hold on team, Gary has already proven to me that he is 100% committed to the team. He proved it last night by sucking my ********."
     

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