So...Trumps Veep/J.D.Vance

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Who will Trump pick as VP?

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  1. roby

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    Ummm! Monsanto...now there's a good source! :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Khan

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    This is more of a commentary on how "America's Dairyland," and C.O.W.s view non-dairy "milk."

    Perhaps ~18 months or so ago, I had occasion to cross the 'Cheddar Curtain' up to Wisconsin, where I stopped by a grocery store. In the refrigerated section there were products labelled "Soy Beverage," "Oat Beverage," and "Almond Beverage;" other parts of the world call these "Soy Milk," "Oat Milk," and "Almond Milk," due to the intense marketing efforts of the producers of those over-processed products meant to horn in on dairy's action.


    Although those people are savages up there in Wisconsin, and they're wrong-minded about the bears/packers divide, and they voted in Scott Walker and Ron Johnson twice, I do agree with them up there in 'Illinois' State Park' about milk:

    Milk should be a dairy-only product, full stop.
     
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    It's not like it's new that non-dairy white liquids have been referred to as milk. You have heard of milkweed. Or if you prefer, beverage plant attractive to monarch butterflies. With butter being a dairy product those insects need a new name.
     
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    The truth is out there.

     
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    #355 Sounders78, Jul 24, 2024
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    What about with Peter Thiel? I mean, didn't Peter T. give him lots of money? Surely JD earned that somehow. :whistling:
     
  6. Q*bert Jones III

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  7. Dr. Wankler

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    Pretty good article from the Bulwark on "The Mind of JD Vance." I'm familiar with most of those figures from having read up recently on the contemporary right. The guys this article focuses on are the Extemely Online Contingent of the new right. As in ... these guys need to get outside more often, even if it's just to walk or bicycle to the nearest library to read an actual book.

    https://www.thebulwark.com/p/vance-galaxy-brained-style-american-politics


    BY NOW, YOU’VE PROBABLY SEEN a recently recirculated 2021 clip of then–Senate candidate JD Vance attacking Vice President Kamala Harris as a representative of “childless cat ladies” who are so “miserable at their own lives and . . . choices” that they want nothing else but to bring the rest of us down, too.

    It’s an ugly and misogynistic sentiment, and if it were coming from a more typical right-wing pug, it would probably have ended there—a nasty, sweaty soundbite. But Vance has a more capacious mind. He wasn’t satisfied with the insult alone; he knew he needed to sharpen his stick into a spear. So he worked in this point: “The entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. . . . We’ve turned our country over to people who don’t have a direct stake in it.”

    What a kicker! It creates the mental impression of an idea without actually leaving one for the mind to consider. Anyone who is alive in our country has a stake in its future, of course, but Vance isn’t talking just about our own lifetimes. He’s on the civilization beat. He is trying to think in centuries.

    Am I overinterpreting a gibe delivered for the angry enjoyment of a Fox News audience? Perhaps. But I also think I’m not wrong to see in Vance a galaxy-brained tendency common among his hyper-online far-right milieu.​


    For example, Curtis Yarvin:


    Curtis Yarvin, a friend of Vance’s, is a monarchist who would like America to install a “national CEO” to fire all government employees and rule as a startup-founder-cum-dictator. Yarvin sometimes writes about “the Cathedral,” meaning a network of institutions that is hostile to right-wingers and produces the parameters of our political reality. Vance would probably prefer the coin in his own pocket, “the Regime,” but otherwise, his ideas are similar, right down to the mass-firings and the seizure of power by a strong man. His strong man.

    Well, as you might suspect, Vance’s muse has the bug, too. Yarvin has always had it: He used to write under the name “Mencius Moldbug,” and he illustrates his political analysis with invocations of “dark elves” and so forth. (This political interest in Tolkien is something Vance shares.) Here’s Yarvin’s archly knowing gloss on what he’s labeled the “Kamala Koup”:​


    For even more entertainment, follow the links on "Raw Egg Nationalist," a Right Wing Body Builder who, it turns out, is in his mid-30s and lives in his mother's house.
     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bulwark has been doing gods work documenting this slide into lunacy and the freak show of characters.

    It's one reason I miss Sykes podcast, because he devoted time to covering the crack up of the conservative 'intellectual' crowd - think Heritage, Claremont etc

    I know there is a lot of Perlstein style navel gazing about when this all began and who started it - but the reality is Thiel's open fascism is not new. But guys like him, even though wealthy, were freaks who did not have political power. The Reince era is when the GOP cracked and all the freaks took over the ivory towers.

    And over nearly a decade, you can see how they've got worse and worse to the point where a naked fascist owns the possible next VP. And if Trump dies in office ....
     
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  10. charlie15

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    I am truly enjoying the JD Vance implosion. He is a major thorn and distraction now the the convicted felon’s campaign.

    In new audio, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) called for a “federal response” to block women in Republican-led states from traveling to another state to get an abortion.
     
  11. Auriaprottu

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    I cannot believe they're about to throw the whole election over this poor choice.
     
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  12. spejic

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    Yeah, but I completely believe that Trump and the people that surround him now are capable of this kind of mistake. And I don't think it will be their last.
     
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  13. usscouse

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    They would have to be prepared to have a battery of SAMs ready to take George Soros’s 747 down.

    Who in the hell comes up with stories like that, or more importantly who in the hell believes it. ???
     
  14. charlie15

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    I hope he stays on the ticket but there is a good chance, at this rhythm, that Vance will be sent back to his beloved sofa. So many negative stories about him.

    J.D. Vance Was a Mistake

    Reports suggest that Donald Trump had settled on North Dakota Gov. Doug Bergum (R) as his running mate when his two sons, Don Jr. and Eric, “went bat shit crazy” and insisted he choose Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) instead.

    Quote of the Day

    “Vance does worse in his home region at -16 points than he does in the average of all polls… So the people who know him best, the region that knows him best, they like him even less than America likes him.”

    — Polling analyst Harry Enten, on CNN.

    J.D. Vance Suggested Purging the Federal Workforce

    “While Donald Trump’s agenda and a massive think tank document clearly indicate his second-term strategy for federal workers, nothing captures those plans as succinctly as a statement made by his running mate,” the Washington Post reports.

    “If Sen. J.D. Vance, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, were to give Trump ‘one piece of advice,’ he said in 2021, it would be ‘fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state. Replace them with our people.'”

    J.D. Vance Watch
    Polymarket has a political futures contract on whether Sen. J.D. Vance will remain as Donald Trump’s running mate.

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    Some Republicans Slam Vance as Bad Pick

    A number of House Republicans are privately bashing former President Trump’s selection of Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) as his running mate, warning that the pick will not help — and could hurt — the party’s chances of winning in November,” The Hill reports.

    Said one House Republican: “He was the worst choice of all the options. It was so bad I didn’t even think it was possible. Anti-Ukraine, more of a populist. He adds nothing to the Trump ticket. He energizes the same people that love Trump.”

    Said another: “I think if you were to ask many people around this building, nine out of 10 on our side would say he’s the wrong pick. He’s the only person who can do serious damage.”

    J.D. Vance Suggested Purging the Federal Workforce

    “While Donald Trump’s agenda and a massive think tank document clearly indicate his second-term strategy for federal workers, nothing captures those plans as succinctly as a statement made by his running mate,” the Washington Post reports.

    “If Sen. J.D. Vance, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, were to give Trump ‘one piece of advice,’ he said in 2021, it would be ‘fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state. Replace them with our people.'”



     
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  15. charlie15

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    #365 charlie15, Jul 26, 2024
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    Larry Hogan must be pulling whatever is left from his head after JD Vance comments (and project 2025) and Va is definitely out of contention for the GOP now. Hogan will get his ticket to oblivion.

    Numbers of non military federal employees in those 2 states.
    Virginia. 206,000
    Maryland. 184,000
     
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    That is good news......for John McCain (never gets old...).

    Steve Schmidt: “I always knew it was theoretically possible that Sarah Palin would one day be eclipsed by a candidate more dishonest, fraudulent and weird than her. In the way I know it is possible for aliens to arrive tomorrow, I’ve always known it was possible that one day someone as equally unfit and terrifying could emerge. I just didn’t think I’d live to see it.”

    “Yet, here we are in 2024, and the man who believes Putin is our friend and cat ladies are a threat is poised to be a heartbeat away from the presidency if Donald Trump wins.”

    “There are many things that can be said about Donald Trump, starting with the fact that he was found liable for raping a woman. He is a convicted felon and a scumbag of extraordinary dimensions, who has desecrated the American presidency, the truth, decency and the concept of integrity. His awfulness is beyond debate — just as his unfitness is. Now, he has relieved John McCain from the record books for worst pick ever with his bearded Palin.”
     
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  19. Pønch

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    As the guy who found Palin for the McCain campaign, Schmidt knows a thing or two about horrible VP picks.

    Still, f*ck that guy though.
     
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    But Trump hires only the best people, don'tcha know?

    I hope he sticks with Vance for all the reasons Charlie mentioned. Trump is known for doubling down when he makes mistakes, never wanting to admit it. If he does change horses now, It's another talking point for the Dems to use against him. Bad judgment, only realizing in hindsight that a guy just like him won't help, only hurt, and a whole bunch of other things...
     
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  21. song219

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    Do any of Trump’s kids over 35 live in Florida? I can see him picking one of them.
     
  22. raza_rebel

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    So will Trump's campaign abort JD Vance or be forced to carry him to full-term?

    [​IMG]
     
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    None of this is funny....also NSFW

     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

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    "bearded palin"

    :ROFLMAO:
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    Perhaps the key for Vance is to do all his interviews with coked up Don Jr lol

     

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