So far 2014 >>>>> 2010

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014: General' started by johnbarley2, Jun 14, 2014.

  1. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Defensive teams don't score many goals. Barca has this system for a long time and somehow they manage to score over 140 goals a year (in all competitons). 140 being a conservative number as they score in La Liga alone 100
    If Barca is defensive then why do more offensive teams score less? Much less
     
  2. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    because of Messi.

    Spain doesn´t have Messi, so their tiki-taka became a boring non-offensive tiki-taka... would only keep possession but wouldn´t do much up front.
     
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  3. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    #153 waitforit, Jul 8, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2014
    Messi scores about 20 or 30 maximum more goals for Barca than your normal world class forwards. So without him Barca still has over 100 goals scored easily which is more than most offensive teams


    I will not compare 7 + 6 WC and Euro to the what, at least 360 games played by Barca and say tiki taka played by Spain is the real one.
     
  4. jerrito

    jerrito Member+

    Jun 22, 2006
    America
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    And in fact it did...
     
  5. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    well, at least some of the matches that ended in 0-0s had some 2-3 goals in extra-time.
     
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  6. guri

    guri Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    :D
    it starts with:
    "Brazil, tell me how it feels,
    to have your daddy home"


    "Brasil, decime qué se siente tener en casa a tu papá
    Te juro que aunque pasen los años, nunca nos vamos a olvidar…
    Que el Diego te gambeteó, que Canni te vacunó,
    que estás llorando desde Italia hasta hoy
    A Messi lo vas a ver, la Copa nos va a traer,
    Maradona es más grande que Pelé"
     
  7. jerrito

    jerrito Member+

    Jun 22, 2006
    America
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Sorry, I was agreeing with you. :) The group stages were fantastic for neutral fans, I certainly agree. It is always amazing to me how much more tense the matches become in the knockout rounds, and how much less we see of goal scoring typically as we get closer to the final, probably also due perhaps to better team defending.
     
  8. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Welllll, the quarterfinals were undoubtedly dull but man are the semis getting off to a memorable start!

    Some guy on ESPN Deportes said it best: This game is so shocking, fans will remember it the rest of their lives. Where they saw it, what they were doing when this happened.

    2014 keeps delivering
     
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  9. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Brazil, sacrificing itself for the good of the World Cup! We single-handedly managed to increase a lot the goal scoring average!

    :D
     
  10. canis

    canis Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    La reina del Plata
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That was my first thought.
    Where were you when JFK got assasinated?
    Where were you when the man landed on the moon?
    Where were you when Brazil crumbled?
    :laugh:
     
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  11. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    Funny for me '02 sticks out as the best home field advantage of any WC in my lifetime ... Certainly better than '94, '98, '06 and '10 ... I still have that chant from the Korean fans stuck in my head ... You should watch some old footage of that. Sticks out in my mind as one of the top atmospheres I've ever heard or seen on TV or in person.
     
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  12. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    #162 waitforit, Jul 9, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2014
    Didn't they need 8 more goals to be the WC with the most goals scored?
    They scored those last night

    EDIT: they needed 12 so 4 more
     
  13. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I was in a german named bar in a brazilian city called Novo Hamburgo, with my german-brazilian wife, and everybody started singing Oktoberfest songs after the match! It was really fun actually :)
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IMO the best World Cup I've followed, which is all of them from 1990 on.

    One of the oddities is that the two most memorable matches were blowouts...the 5-1 Netherlands v Spain, and the 7-1 semifinal.
     
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  15. Ed-D

    Ed-D Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 13, 2005
    NY
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which inflated the goals scored statistic, to the point that this World Cup was able to tie France '98 for most goals scored...

    I've been watching the World Cup since '82. This was the best one since '86 IMO. Italia '90 was the worst (by far)
     
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  16. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Best one for me as well
     
  17. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    most italians are complaining too many goals were scored in this World Cup, that defenses were atrocious. I suppose they rather see perfect defenses and the lowest goal average ever, than lots of goals, which yes, can hardly be scored without errors from defenses.
     
  18. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    2014 is easily better than the last 3 World Cups!
     
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  19. canis

    canis Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    La reina del Plata
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Of course they do. It´s called catenaccio :D
     
  20. DutchLion

    DutchLion Member

    Jun 12, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I remember catenaccio, not my kind of play I like to watch.

    The Italians have a point I think.
    A lot of teams where a bit too happy and enthusiastic with their playing style, too much space all over the field.
    A good defense / or tactic to build the best defense possible is what gets you further, usually.
     
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  21. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    the fact however is that if defenses are too good, we have too few goals. Football is already a low scoring game... defenses that don´t make mistakes result in even low scoring games. Good flawless defenses are good for the people who have them, not for the neutral viewer.
     
  22. Ed-D

    Ed-D Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 13, 2005
    NY
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know I know Italians admire the beauty of a tactical nil nil draw. I can respect that, but what we had at Italia '90 was far worse: teams basically bunkering for 120 minutes. You had that in the 1994 final as well. It was horrible.
     
  23. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    2014 is tied with France 98 as the tournament with the most goals scored
    171
     
  24. frero

    frero Member

    May 11, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    the vuvuzelas were pretty cool in my book
     
  25. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    The first day.
     

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