So Chivas fans, any idea what this is about?

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  1. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a conceptual/schematic plan done in SketchUp & Adobe Illustrator.
     
  2. viceman

    viceman New Member

    Jul 6, 2012
    Club:
    AC Siena
  3. sikolec

    sikolec Member

    Feb 21, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very interesting find. Looks to be at the Fairplex in Pomona...
     
  4. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Might be some Photoshop work in there, too.

    Unless you're implying that the use of SketchUp means it's a less than legitimate conceptual study of a potential proposed sporting complex for Chivas USA. In that case, I'll say the firm used Gimp and Inkscape to save on overhead costs.
     
  5. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Likely. I just finished up a couple of conceptual roof studies for a building. Very few original cad files to work with, but got it modeled well in SketchUp and then did the boards with a combination of Illustrator/Fireworks/Photoshop. I like using Layout as well, but it just didn't work out as well as Illustrator did for this.

    Not at all, I love SU, though you see a lot of people faking shit with it. It's pushed Autodesk to get back to work again because they couldn't afford to just buy it like they have with everything else. It remains to be seen what Trimble does with it.

    Never used either of those. I get Adobe/Autodesk at about a 90% discount from commercial.
     
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  6. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's weird the two maps don't agree w/ each other. The stadium is in different locations.
     
  7. sikolec

    sikolec Member

    Feb 21, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Care to elaborate? I'm a bit confused...both maps I see show the same location...McKinley Avenue, Fairplex Drive, and White Drive.

    This looks to be the location:

    http://goo.gl/maps/UP8r/
     
  8. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Photos 1 and 4 could have been drawn in SU, but there is a heavy dose of rendering software in there because SU drawings aren't usually that crisp (typical signs are quasi-grainy/blurry, lead-colored edges surrounding polygons, if the edges are turned off you can usually see a grainy gap of white where the edges used to be). I also see details in the stadium that wouldn't be worth the effort to draw in SketchUp given the chosen image angles, for instance the scaffolding covered under the shadow underneath the grandstand in photo 1.

    2 and 3 look like Illustrator
     
  9. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Two different stadiums too. Just concepts, I'm thinking.
     
  10. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was being facetious. Many folks think that because SketchUp has a free version it's garbage. I extrapolated on that listing a couple open source image editing/manipulation and vector graphic applications, maybe I should've tossed Scribus in there as well. ;)

    FREE > 90% off. :p
    Good eye. The bird's eye and aerial images (2nd and 3rd above) show the stadium on opposite sides of "CHIVAS Plaza".
     
  11. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay - look at the VIP covered parking. In the lower map there is the smaller Chivas Club stadium and multi-use field. The Chivas Club and multi-use field are not in the upper map. Everything is sort of pushed around.

    The main stadium is on the other side of the road between the two maps. Also, on one map Chivas Plaza is dead up against the main stadium, while on the other its across the road.

    That's enough Where's Waldo for me today.
     
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  12. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Were these commissioned by the team or were they just company commissioned to try and get the job? And is that a site the team had been considering?

    And it is the same site, it's just different stadium locations on the site. One more toward the east side, the other more toward the center. But both are at the Fairplex.
     
  13. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aside from nit-picking, this is potentially a pretty good location. There aren't any other pro sports complexes out this way except, I think, a NASCAR track. The Inland Empire is nearby (So Cal fans can help me here - Pomona is still LA County, right?) with well over 3,000,000 residents.

    As an added bonus, the location is right in the heart of the Porn Belt, so getting, ah enthusiatic cheerleaders should be no problem.
     
  14. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It can't be an official site. I can't see LA County getting rid of the LA County Fair for Chivas.

    But yes Pomona is in LA county, it's the eastern edge of it. But it's also over the hills into what can be considered the Inland Empire.
     
  15. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not important right now
    Well, the free version of SU is kinda limited and the only other real downside is that you get a lot of clowns believing the shit they sketch out would stand up or not be a fire trap.

    Much better than the deals my consultants get. There are perks to being a quiet little federal/tribal government office.

    Porn? You're gross.
     
  16. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought that was San Fernando Valley, this is East San Gabriel Valley
     
  17. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Gentrification probably pushed them out. :p
     
  18. FuzzyForeigner

    Oct 29, 2003
    WA
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    would love to see up to date DC renderings.
     
  19. dino1er

    dino1er Member

    Jun 5, 2009
    east side of la
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fairplex has been long rumored to be a site, but this the first concepts i see. I like what i see and i'd love for it to be there if we can't get anything done @ the sports arena site in downtown near USC.
     
  20. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Up to date of what?
     
  21. soccerbetic

    soccerbetic Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    its a cricket farm *chirp chirp* :D
     
  22. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stadium has too many poles holding up the roof.
     
  23. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be an incredible location - especially with the Expo Line now running.
     
  24. glyconerd

    glyconerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    Nice find. This is the first rendering I've seen. As a renter, I can say that I'm beyond happy with the rendering and I'd take that stadium in a heart beat. :D

    I hope this means real food at our stadium instead of that corn based, mass produced, microwaved chit AEG passes off as food at HDC.

    The location isn't central to Los Angeles, neither is HDC. For commuters, this would be a similar drive, maybe 5-10 minutes added time, correct me if I'm wrong.
     

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