Should UEFA establish a salary cap?

I thought this was about UEFA making some sort of cap, rather than just England.

 

as I said way back in post 9

but how do you apply a cap across countries? Countries have different currencies. Those currencies fluctuate in value. Countries have different tax rates and different costs of living. And without being too controversial, different countries would have rather different attitudes to making sure their teams didn't break those cap rulings.

 

The Yankees havn't won the World Series for quite a number of years. They are always there abouts just like the Braves but don't go all the way.

 

Good idea, but I don't think it will work. The economic of scale is different from most countries. How can they find a meaningful sum for all of Europe?

 

But football in England is not just about the Premiership. There are 92 clubs in the league.

 

54% of the total league's revenue is the cap for all teams. I think the number is 50% for NHL, 54% for NBA and NFL.

So if the total revenue for EPL is 2 billion, then the cap is set at $54 million for all team.

If the total revenue for Dutch league is 1 billion, then the cap is set at $27 million.


However, I don't think the cap would happen. The players would fight it to the teeth and they wouldn't cave in like the NHL players because they got one alternative that NHL players do not. ANOTHER LEAGUE TO PLAY IN with about the same salary.

NHL players can go to Europe while they are strike, but the salary was about 1/3 or 1/2 of the NHL's salary.

 

So you're saying that the Premiership teams (and I'm not even thinking about the inequalities in that) would have double the cash of the Dutch teams to spend on wages? You then state:

But you've just shown that not to be the case because the Premiership has twice as much money avaliable.

Now what happens if a team from the Premiership gets relegated?

 

Thats the reason it the national FA's can't do it. UEFA can however and then it will stick, the players would have very hard getting the same wages in MLS or in Latin America.

 

The French system is by far the healthiest in Europe at the moment. Not the most condusive to winning in Europe, but by far the healthiest for the league.
If you run in the red you get your ass relegated. Period. They don't care if you're Marseille or Troyes. This is a natural salary cap.

 

I dought UEFA could do any such thing, it's almost certainly against EU Law.

 

If EPL players went on strike like NHLers did last year, EPL players can go to Spain and Italy where the wages are comparable. Even Japan, Quatar or Mexico would pay good wages. Not as high as EPL but they can live off a million or two per year in salary playing in those countrires while waiting out the situation to be resolved in the EPL.

For many NHL players, they didn't have that option. Some played in the minor league system earning $5,000 a month just to get in shape or for practice. Some even played for free.

 

I don´t know if Uefa should or could establish a salary cap but one thing i know since the Bosman rule the rich became richer and poor became poorer...

 

What happens if the club needs to borrow money to update their stadium or something? They'd be stuck playing in a dump, and the fanbase would suffer.

 

There is a distinction between good debt and bad debt. I probably should have rephrased my post. Clubs can be in debt...... But a clubs payment on its debts and obligations can't surpass its revenues. So like any mortgage, if your club can make the payments they're fine.

Clubs certainly are more reluctant to invest recklessly in stadia in France than in some countries though.

 

And about 15 to 20 with realisitc aims to enter that league.

 

A cap wouldn't necessarily have to be equal internationally. If it was generally level across Europe, I doubt it would turn the EPL into the SPL.

 

The first half of this statement describes the facilities situation in France.

 

How dare you! The SPL is better this season than the EPL!

Football

 

Please do enlighten us on what you know about the stadia situation in France.

 

What people who are in favor of the cap (usually Americans ) ignore is that “leagues “ in American sense of the word don’t exist in Europe.


These are not centrally run entities which allocate teams to the biggest markets.

Leagues are just a form of competition between fully independent clubs.

The primary purpose of these clubs is not to make money for their owner but to win football matches. They’re not going to come together and organize a cartel which would limit players salaries and guarantee the owners profits. There will always be someone who is willing to loose his own money to make his football team better.

Also it would kill all the fun of the competition between clubs of different financial strength.

Wining a championship would have a much less of a significance for a relatively poor club like Werder if the they had as much to spend as Bayern do.

It would make you feel that you just have to wait for your turn, and that everyone will win it in time.

 

The thing is though, television and CL money has made the financial gaps far from what they used to be for almost a century. Some feel that it is gotten out of hand. Most probably don't think that Manchester United should only get to spend as much as Sunderlund... it's just that there is an idea that maybe the financial gap should be lowered to a degree.

 

Not much apparently.

 

There are various types of salary cap structure. A "soft" cap may actually work. Meaning that a figure is created based on league's total income, and clubs that go over it have to pay some kind of a luxury tax which then is divided among poorer sides. Kinda similar to what is done in MLB I guess. Big clubs would still be able to go over the cap and buy the best players, but they'd have to pay luxury tax, which would discourage clubs from Abramovich-like spending.
And there would be no ceiling so that any club can get to the top division.

 

will it? what if it does not work?