Shannon MacMillan - ACL

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by Motterman, May 19, 2003.

  1. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.soccertimes.com/wusa/2003/games/may18.htm

    Crap.
     
  2. fidlerre

    fidlerre Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    damn that sucks...

    good luck mac! get well soon...
     
  3. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet
    OH, NO...i hope they're wrong, pls it's only a little injury
     
  4. FearM9

    FearM9 New Member

    Jul 14, 2000
    On my bike
    A press release that was just posted in the Spirit forum from their PR guy confirms that it is indeed an ACL tear and Mac will undergo surgery tomorrow.
     
  5. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll say it again:

    CRAP!
     
  6. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet
    probably no WC for her, i was thinking of watching Mac Millan and Mia combination at the WC, i think this is our best combination forward
     
  7. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did my residency in San Diego, at UCSD. Excellent orthopaedics program there. I wonder if that's where she'll have it repaired, or do they have their own specific orthopod that takes care of the women's nat. team members?

    Huge loss for the Spirit, the USWNT and for the sport in general. She has such a great knack for scoring in the crunch.

    Who will step up and fill that void?

    I hope Wambach (twin towers with CP), but more likely Milbrett.
     
  8. grendel

    grendel New Member

    Nov 15, 2002
    Are you an orthopod, ttrevett? I'm surprised that they've scheduled the graft surgery so quickly (tomorrow). I thought there was usually a waiting period for the swelling to subside? Not that I'm complaining.

    I don't think there is an adequate substitute for Mac's particular talents. She certainly has the biggest leg of any USWNT striker. I imagine both O'Reilly and Wambach will now make the WWC roster. Let's hope Heather is making good use of her current experience with the U-21s in Brazil.
     
  9. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    this is terrible - shes been playing the soccer of her life for the past 2 years or so - get well soon mac!!
     
  10. fidlerre

    fidlerre Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    usually you would wait...i am kinda surprised they are doing it only 2 days after it was injured, i mean you can drain the knee <the usually do anyway> but to drain it one day and they operate the next, kinda odd...perhaps it didn't swell very bad.
     
  11. SunnyJah

    SunnyJah New Member

    Oct 29, 2001
    depends on the season
    This really is a blow to the Spirit, USWNT and Women's Soccer.

    This ACL issue is something that needs to be looked into. It's become almost a right of passage for the female athlete (soccer, basketball, hockey)- and it's doesn't have to be. I wonder if there are any knee gards being worked on that wouldn't hamper mobility?

    Having been through this myself (though only a partial tear) I'm feeling for Mackie... and Hege... and...
     
  12. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More from http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-macmillaninjury&prov=ap&type=lgns:

     
  13. Mike Lane

    Mike Lane New Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    Atlanta
    A great blow to a great lady. She'll be missed both by WUSA and the NT. I hope Ape gets over her problem with Wombach.
     
  14. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn, she's one of my favorite's too.....

    The quick surgery might be the new trend, Willis McGahee also had his right away, IIRC.
     
  15. Hamm-star

    Hamm-star New Member

    Oct 2, 2002
    Mac:

    Actually, alot of the ACL injuries one see's in the women's game are do to the fact that they do not run properly. IE..they do not bend their knees enough. Mia and Millie have never had ACL tears because they run very well. knees bent, low center of gravity. Girls need to be taught at an early age to bend their knees when they run. if they did teach this we would not see as many of these types of injuries. Women are more supseptible to ACL's because of the way our knee's are constructed. strengthening the little stabilizer muscles around the knee would also go along way in protecting the knee from ACL's as well as MCL's.
     
  16. ditch

    ditch New Member

    Jul 29, 2002
    St. Paul, MN
    This is terrible for Mac.

    I'm not an expert, is there any chance that playing a second game in two days may have had an impact on the injury, or is it just freak accident?

    Get well soon Mac.

    d
     
  17. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yes, it is possible.

    I posted this is the SD forum and it is easier to copy from that than to post a link:
    ===========================
    From reports and from a VERY brief view I had on a sports news program I caught I think that muscle fatigue played a large part in this injury.

    Women are more vulnerable to this kind of injury than men due to several reasons among them: A smaller femoral notch (Where the ACL passes) and wider hips after puberty resulting a different angle and greater shearing force and from this from University of Michigan in Ann Arbor:
    From these two facts it seems clear that too much play in to short a time may contribute quite a bit to the tendency to an ACL injury. If the muscels are tired then they cannot possibly respond correctly and two games in two days is too much for any adult.

    US Soccer only cares about money. That is clear from the scheduling. If they would schedule games mid week, like the rest of the world does for the men, then we would have fewer of these injuries.

    It is a tribute to the great athletes in the WUSA that there are not more injuries in games played too close.
    ===========================

    Of course some of the blame also lies with the WUSA. Reducing the rosters to the tiny numbers they currently alow makes it very hard to have enough players to allow players to sit out a game when uninjured but a bit tired.

    It could be argued that this injury would happen anyway but I strongly believe that tired mucels should be a priamry suspect in the injury.
     
  18. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mac still has hopes for WWC...

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/tue/sports/news_1s20spirit.html

    Below is a paragraph out of this morning's article:

    MacMillan, ever the optimist, ever the warrior, is not yet ready to abandon her World Cup aspirations, even though the tournament is tentatively scheduled to begin in slightly more than four months and ACLs generally require at least six to heal. She plans to have surgery today, then begin rehabilitation immediately.
     
  19. Mike Lane

    Mike Lane New Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    Atlanta
    She's a trooper, but there are very very slim chances that she can make it back in 4 months.
     
  20. TOTC

    TOTC Member

    Feb 20, 2001
    Laurel, MD, USA
    Can you say, "Willis McGahee?"

    Then again, we're so deep in this country that The Wombat can take a roster spot and play will not be diminished.
     
  21. fidlerre

    fidlerre Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    think that running back from miami...that magahee character.

    honestly i doubt there is a chance in hell that she makes it back in 4 months and is able to make the roster <she might be running but not playing on the field> but i will be rooting for her 100% of the way.

    what a horrible thing to have happen right now.
     
  22. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet
    is it the same kind of injury that C.Armas got last year right before Men WC 2002 ?
     
  23. Thomas Flannigan

    Feb 26, 2001
    Chicago
    Worst news in awhile. Right before the Cup. It is very sad.
     
  24. ggayle

    ggayle Member

    May 4, 1999
    Oaktown, CA, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes.

    I admire her spunk, but Mac might be risking too much to try and come back in 4-5 months (Jerry Rice anyone?). Maybe she feels this is her last Cup, but if Brandi can make it (she'll be 35 by the time of the tournament), there's hope that she can wait for the next one too. This team has the depth to work around the loss. Mac, don't do it.

    I've gone through this injury (although in my case it took a bicycle accident to do it). The rehab is a long and slow process that cannot be rushed. Even then it takes at least a full year to get full strength and flexibility back. Take care of that knee.

    Guy
     
  25. lab99

    lab99 New Member

    May 10, 2001
    Orange County, CA
    The second game might not have helped any, but it did seem like more of a freak accident. She was running hard for a loose ball and stretched out to get it with her left foot. From what she said, her cleat on her right foot caught in the turf instead of moving forward and turning with her. So she ended up with all her weight on a twisted knee. :(
     

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