Serie A Guerin Sportivo 1980-1991 every game with player ratings

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  1. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
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    Will this 1992-93 season be continued?
     
  2. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    Yes, sir. Any information that I have available will continue, it’s just at the moment I’m a little busy with many assignments as of late.
     
  3. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    I can send you info through a PM that way the thread doesn’t get derailed.
     
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  4. Vegan10

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    I will add this piece though since it pertains to the opinion of Maradona and Italian football and his views about the best players at that time (December 1992).

    World Soccer magazine.
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  5. MJWizards

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    Thats amazing!!! I cant wait to see those mate!!
     
  6. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    Round 4

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  7. Vegan10

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    Carlo F. Chiesa’s top and worst of the weekend (in green and with ratings of 7 and above were the best; the worst in red with grades of 5 and below).

    GS round 4

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  8. PuckVanHeel

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  9. Vegan10

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    GS round 5

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  10. Vegan10

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    Carlo F. Chiesa’s top and worst of the weekend (in green and with ratings of 7 and above were the best; the worst in red with grades of 5 and below).

    GS round 5

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  11. Vegan10

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    Although very early in the season, after 5 rounds Carlo F. Chiesa of Guerin Sportivo graded each new transfer and new foreigner in Serie A.

    Some players like Ruggeri, Papin, D. Baggio, Caniggia, Zarate, Sosa, Pancev, Orlando, Sliskovic or David Platt have struggled with grades of less than 6.

    The absolute best seem to be Fonseca, Detari, Signori, Aguilera, B. Laudrup, Effenberg, with grades of an 8.

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  12. PuckVanHeel

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  13. PuckVanHeel

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    I'd like it if this gets completed.
     
  14. Vegan10

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    Sure, mate. The issue I have with this season is that most of my information is scattered around and mixed with other sources, and it’s a tedious task to find everything and put it in order. I’m gradually finding editions and posting them as I go along searching my archives.
     
  15. Vegan10

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    GS round 6
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  16. Vegan10

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    Carlo F. Chiesa’s top and worst of the weekend (in green and with ratings of 7 and above were the best; the worst in red with grades of 5 and below).

    GS round 6

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  17. Vegan10

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    GS round 7

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  18. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    Carlo F. Chiesa’s top and worst of the weekend (in green and with ratings of 7 and above were the best; the worst in red with grades of 5 and below).

    GS round 7

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  19. Vegan10

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    Photos of some key players in this season:

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  20. Vegan10

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    GS round 8

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  21. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    Carlo F. Chiesa’s top and worst of the weekend (in green and with ratings of 7 and above were the best; the worst in red with grades of 5 and below).

    GS round 8

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  22. Vegan10

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    Some photos in action of this round.

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  23. Vegan10

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    After 8 rounds the average grades place Paolo Maldini at the top.

    Some quick observations: Effenberg, Zenga, Van Basten, Signori, Fusi, Orlando, Balbo, Biaiano, Aguilera, B. Laudrup, Francescoli, Winter, Massaro, etc. have all shined or maintained a steady level.

    In contrast, the decline of Careca, Franco Baresi, Alemao, Gullit, and some of the old guard players from the previous era seems inevitable, due to age and nutrition.

    The inconsistent or mixed performances from Roberto Baggio, Scifo, Batistuta, David Platt, Hagi, Caniggia and some other key guys remains an issue, with special attention to Roberto Baggio, the franchise player of Juventus, who has not lived up to the billing as the main star of Italian football.

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  24. Vegan10

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    Found this this piece that was written not so long ago about the suspicious acts surrounding the 1987-88 season when Napoli lost the Scudetto at the last hurdle despite leading most of the way.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...jun/15/diego-maradona-napoli-collapse-1987-88

    “But Napoli’s choke in 1987-88 has always been wrapped up in deep folds of suspicion. The city has been home to the Camorra crime syndicate since the 17th century. The 1980s were an especially violent time; in 1988, there were at least 32 distinct clans battling for superiority, with hundreds of deaths every year.

    One of the main revenue streams for the Camorra was the totonero, black-market betting. At the start of the 1987-88 season, every single Neapolitan, it seemed, put money on their team to win a second championship. While there has never been a proven link, success for Napoli would have been highly disadvantageous for the crime families of the city. “If they had won that season, the Camorra would have had to pay out about 200bn lire in bets,” Simone Di Meo, an investigative journalist who specialises in the Camorra, told me. “They would have gone bankrupt.”

    Diego Maradona: flight of the enchanter - from the archive, 6 April 1991
    Certainly, there were some strange goings-on towards the end of the season. Maradona’s car was smashed up, while the midfielder Salvatore Bagni had his home burgled twice. In Kapadia’s documentary, the link between Maradona and the Camorra is explored. He is shown with the Guiliano clan, a ruthless family who ran the impoverished Forcella neighbourhood. Maradona went to their parties, graced their weddings and accepted the Rolexes that were a standard appearance gift.”


    Recently, Salvatore Bagni, former Napoli player denied these accusations.
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    “The Camorra did not press for Napoli to lose the Scudetto and avoid ruining the totonero's business. Many Neapolitans have a fixed idea about that lost championship. They are convinced that the Camorra had not considered it possible that Napoli would win for the second consecutive year and had consequently behaved in the management of illegal betting ".

    “Many think that the Camorra would have missed the bank if Napoli had finished first again. They said they would never win that championship at Napoli. The reality is that we made a mistake, we thought too much about Ottavio Bianchi. We were a very close team and in the last few races we found ourselves running out of energy. We were dead, we were no longer standing ".


    About MARADONA
    "I assure you that I never noticed the particular nights of Maradona, what was going on around him, including cocaine, prostitutes and Camorra"



    As time passes by the bigger the myth surrounding this legend.
     
  25. Vegan10

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    This was the piece that was published in the Italian press in 1994:

    MARADONA SELLS THE SCUDETTO 'TO THE CLAN
    ROME - "Maradona sold the scudetto of the 1987-88 season on behalf of the Camorra, the year in which Napoli had a five point advantage and the championship was then won by Milan". The sensational revelation was made in a courtroom during the trial against the Argentine footballer for detention and drug dealing. Speaking was Pietro Pugliese, a former security guard also accused of violating the drug law. The accused pointed out to the judges of the First Criminal Section of the Rome court that the Camorra forced Maradona to sell the scudetto because the underworld, managing the totonero, would have to pay too many billions to the bettors who had bet on Naples, the Italian champion. At this point and at the request of the Court, Pugliese specified that Maradona commissioned him to recover valuables that had been stolen during a bank robbery and added: "that theft was a warning". At that time the footballer who had gone to Argentina, according to Pugliese's deposition, warned Napoli that it was his intention not to return to Italy because he believed he was under threat. He was forced to return and the Scudetto was sold. The relationship between Maradona and the Camorra is at the heart of this process. Pugliese at the beginning of 1991, with a self-denunciation, claimed to have been unknowingly involved in a cocaine traffic, having delivered, hidden in a pack of newspapers, a wrapper from Argentina in which there would be three kilograms of cocaine . The defendant changed his version in the courtroom. He said that at the time of the fact he was perfectly aware that that package contained the drug. "In December '89," said Pugliese, and, "I went to Fiumicino airport to welcome Alessandra Bertero, a convicted person in charge of bringing cocaine to Italy. Back with the woman in her home, I opened the package and weighed the drugs". The accused then specified that to transport the parcel with three kilograms of cocaine from Fiumicino to Naples he had been promised about 70 million lire, but in the end, he had only 25 lire. And it is for this reason that the friendship between he and Maradona began to crack. "Maradona", said Pugliese, "had an exchange relationship with the Giuliano di Forcella clan and the drugs that arrived in the parcels sent from Argentina were not only for personal use". At this point the court asked why he kept these circumstances silent during the investigation phase. The accused, among other things, spoke of the lawyer Angelo Cerbone, former defender of Maradona and, today, accused of aiding and abetting. "It was he," he said, "who convinced me to make a complaint without the details that I revealed today." The lawyer, according to Pugliese, at the time of filing the complaint against Maradona warned him that some magistrates of the Public Prosecutor of Naples would do everything to cover up the affair.
    Pugliese's deposition raised a certain amazement not only for the accusations against Maradona but also for the revelations against the lawyer Cerbone and some Neapolitan magistrates. In essence, other judicial measures could arise from his declarations. However a question is a must. Pugliese who for justice is considered a "repentant" is reliable? In full Maradona-gate denounced the Argentine footballer for drug trafficking. First fan, he was an ultrà of the B curve of the Neapolitan stadium, then a friend of the athlete, he claimed to have been used without his knowledge, together with his Argentine fiancée, Alessandra Bertero, to get robust drug matches from South America to Naples. Pugliese said he began to suspect drug trafficking when he received 25 million lire from Maradona's staff. A sum to pay for the silence of the ex security guard? This is what the accusation claims. A new process is born. Maradona reacts by suing Pugliese for slander. Talk about inventions. But once the secret of his controversial private life had been violated, any reply from Diego was not even taken into consideration. After a few months Pugliese will return to speak. A new complaint, in which Maradona is portrayed as a character very close to an unknown Camorra boss. Like an intolerant, violent, in contact with the bad, dangerous footballer to the point of manifesting to unwelcome types the desire to take out a group of nosy journalists.
    Pugliese is considered by the judiciary of Naples an unreliable character. But the assessment against him changes when he spontaneously repents and tells Judge Luigi Gay all the background of the Villaricca feud, allowing the arrest of fifteen between administrators and gangsters. Pugliese accuses himself of having committed five murders. A killer who, now, seems to have decided to empty the bag also on the Maradona affair. Yesterday, some witnesses were deposed at the trial and among them also the former Argentine national team coach, Carlos Bilardo. Everyone tried to bring help to Maradona by talking about the player in a positive way and apologizing for the use of the drug, mainly due to the stress resulting from demanding life, resulting from the fact that he had become a star worldwide. But Pugliese's accusations are heavy. The great champion would have sent drugs from Argentina not for personal use only. The quantity of 3 kilograms of cocaine would have been largely passed off among Neapolitan consumers. Pugliese spoke of the ties with the Camorra and, yesterday, in the courtroom he made the name of the Giuliano di Forcella clan. Now it will be necessary to wait for Maradona's answers to these accusations that are raining down on him while the player is resuming his football activity, he should in fact participate in the Brazil-Argentina match scheduled for March 23 in Recife. On the alleged sale of the Scudetto to the Camorra, Ciro Ferrara, captain of Napoli said: "It is nonsense that does not deserve any comment". On the deposition of Pugliese, Maradona's lawyers, lawyers Vincenzo Siniscalchi and Luigi Ferrante, specified that "only today did he talk about the Scudetto sold, one of the most improbable circumstances of all those he reported".

    https://ricerca.repubblica.it/repub...-vendette-ai-clan-lo-scudetto.html?refresh_ce

    Salvatore Bagni mentioned that they were tired and dead (as in no more energy) by the end of the season. But for the sceptics, I wonder if he really was a dead man (as in killed by the mafia) if Napoli didn’t comply with the Camorra’s demands...
     

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