News: Seleção General Discussion 2023 [R]

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  1. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The press conference will be starting soon:

     
  2. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Press conference begins with an introduction of Diniz's team and an explanation of the criteria for building the list.

    Criteria: Technical quality, history, projection towards next World Cup

    Diniz's first national team selection is:

    Goalkeepers:
    Alisson, Bento, Ederson

    Full-backs:
    Danilo, Vanderson, Caio Henrique, Renan Lodi

    Defenders:
    Gabriel, Ibanez, Marquinhos, Nino

    Mids:
    Andre, Bruno Guimaraes, Casemiro, Joelinton, Veiga

    Forwards:
    Antony, Martinelli, Matheus Cunha, Neymar, Richarlison, Rodrygo, Vini Jr.
     
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  3. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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  4. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #254 Ombak, Aug 18, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2023
    Paquetá's absence is confirmed to be a last minute removal due to the betting investigation going on. If I had to bet (... ironic) I'd guess Matheus Cunha was added in his place.

    EDIT: Someone asked who replaced Paquetá but he wouldn't say.
     
  5. manimal

    manimal Member

    Dec 23, 2018
    Pretty good list.... But a little too old for my taste.... Especially defender and midfield in regards for 2026 WC almost all will be around 30 years old then. (Andre beeing exception)
     
  6. brasileiragem

    brasileiragem Member

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    May 21, 2018
    Paqueta… went from getting trained by Pep to getting a long ban due to betting… uma anta!
     
  7. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Let's see what actually happened first.
     
  8. manimal

    manimal Member

    Dec 23, 2018
    When is U23 list released?
     
  9. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Press conference is in progress, I'll list the team:

     
  10. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    U23 list:

    Goalkeepers:
    Gabriel Grando
    Matheus Cunha
    Mycael

    Full-backs
    Arthur
    Vinicius Tobias
    Abner
    Wellington

    Defenders
    Vitão
    Halter
    Robert Renan
    Morato

    Mids
    João Gomes
    Marlon Gomes
    Maurício
    Andrey
    Danilo

    Forwards
    Lázaro
    Marcos Leonardo
    Vitor Roque
    João Pedro
    Igor Paixão
    Paulinho

    Curiously 5 athletes here are too old for the Olympics. But they're eligible for the Pan-American games. The 5 "U24" are: Gabriel Grando, Vitão, Abner, Paulinho, Igor Paixão
     
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  11. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The Paqueta story is nuts. Apparently stems from a game back in March where several accounts linked to people he knows placed an eerily correct bet about him and another player receiving yellow cards.
     
  12. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Looks like Luiz Henrique was also dropped from the U23 list due to the same issue (he's not under investigation by the English FA, but he is part of the bet in question according to Globo's reporting). There may be another name added to the U23 list later today to make up for his absence.
     
  13. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Now news breaking that Antony's ex will be submitting a police report in England over abuse allegations.
     
  14. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I am wondering about that as well. The accusations were already out there. But this popping up again may affect his call up.

    The criticism is already out there ... "You exclude a player accused of gambling but not one for domestic abuse".
     
  15. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  16. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Controversy over Neymar's inclusion in the call up. JJ said he is confused why he was called up when he is currently injured and isn't in condition to even train. CBF was aware of his injury and included him in the list after talking to Neymar and his staff.
     
  17. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #267 Ombak, Aug 21, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2023
    Joelinton left the Newcastle match with an injury, no update yet on if it will keep him out or if he'll be back quickly.

    Caio Henrique played today, which means last week's injury substitution at 90 minutes wasn't too serious. Also had an assist and an overall good match by the look of it.

    As for Neymar, usually CBF have a good relationship with clubs and this isn't an issue. I imagine that, with the impending transfer, it made sense to be in touch with the player's staff, rather than Al-Hilal or PSG. Also, I don't doubt Jorge Jesus would exaggerate something like that. Neymar may not have a confirmed date to play his first Al-Hilal match, but he played 90 minutes in the last pre-season match for PSG and there weren't reports of a new injury.

    In other weekend highlights for national team players, Juventus started Alex Sandro, Bremer and Danilo as their back 3 today and won 3x0. Danilo, as usual, the highest rated of those three (and the only one going to the national team right now).

    The Gabriels play tomorrow for Arsenal. Richarlison had another frustrating game individually for Tottenham, but his team looked good, while Casemiro, Antony and United started better, but eventually were dominated.

    Ederson and Alisson had good matches, though Alisson had one screw up when playing out from the back that earned him a yellow card. Bento plays tomorrow.

    Marquinhos started for PSG and had a decent game, but the team failed to win once again, under Luis Enrique. Ibanez scored for Ah-Ahli. For those who don't know, the Saudi League has 4 clubs that got an injection of money from the government to buy big name players. These 4 will probably be expected to dominate the league.

    André had a stand out match for Flu yesterday. He and Nino both started and will probably start against Olimpia, Thursday in the Libertadores. Veiga scored for Palmeiras and had a strong performance.

    Vini scored a golaço for Real Madrid, really beautiful touch. They were already winning, behind 2 Bellingham goals, but it's worth watching Vini's shot. Rodrygo didn't score but was good as well. Matheus Cunha had a good individual rating for his match, but his side got crushed this week.
     
  18. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Details for the October matches have been confirmed:

    https://www.uol.com.br/esporte/fute...liminatorias-confira-quando-o-brasil-joga.htm

    Brazil announced they will face Venezuela in the Arena Pantanal. The article above is about CONMEBOL confirming the date and time.

    First match (vs. Venezuela) will be on Thursday, October 12 at 20h30. Second match, at Uruguay, will be on Tuesday, October 17 at 21h.

    Usually the convocação is the Friday 3 weeks before the first match, which would be September 22, but during this period it was sometimes shortened to just 2 weeks before, which would be September 29.
     
  19. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The news I heard is that Neymar's recovery will take a month. If so, calling him up is just weird to me.
     
  20. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Today I'm seeing speculation that Neymar will play at the next home match. TLDR for me is don't trust anything JJ says.

    Vinicius Jr. picked up an injury today that is likely to keep him out of the September matches. Pulled hamstring.
     
  21. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  22. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Vini will be out for 6 weeks.

    Neymar is back in training and I read that he will make his debut in the next match. So it looks like you were right @Ombak . Just not sure the reasoning behind JJ's game.
     
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  23. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Raphinha called up to replace Vini Jr.:

    https://ge.globo.com/futebol/seleca...de-vinicius-junior-raphinha-e-convocado.ghtml

    Richarlison scored today, in a Cup match. Still not looking in sync with the team or in form and needs to hold the ball up better, but it would be nice for him to score on the weekend and come in with some confidence as he is likely to start.

    One week of matches left - continental matches this week, league matches this weekend - and then the team officially meets in Rio on Monday, September 4, for matches on the 8th and 12th.
     
  24. Ombak

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    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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  25. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I am not sure Brasil should he calling 2 players that play in the modest Saudi league.

    (Ibanez + Neymar)

    I guess the experiment with Gleison Bremer is over.
     
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