Scoring situation

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by crzdcolombian, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    Yup.

    I never ever remember him losing a 50/50 header to an opposing player.

    Last cycle started his demise in the Centenario and it was downhill ever since, but he still had his useful attributes.
     
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  2. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Same. I wanted Roca to get 100 caps but sadly that will not happen since Barrios has become the man hand over fist.
     
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  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Never say never.
    If Queiroz get's fired like some people here want him to be Osorio may give him a chance.

    (Joking, kinda)
     
  4. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Roca is retired?
     
  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
  6. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    just doesn't have a team
     
  7. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    if pekerman was here he’d still be starting in yellow regardless

    Sanchez at his clubs knew how to pass maybe Pekerman just wouldn’t let him on the NT.

    I mean I want to see a Lerma-Uribe/Cantillo MF as want players who attack better but again the DM isn’t noticeable until he fks up!
     
  8. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Scoring is looking dire. Falcao has more goals then all the forwards combined that was called for this round.

    79 games 13goals
    Luis Muriel
    Duvan
    Luis Diaz
    Alfredo Morelos
    Luis Suarez(I don't count him though since his first call)


    Falcao 91 games 35 goals.

    Put that into context.
     
  9. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Falcao have more goals in NT even if you combined valencia asprilla and valenciano

    We have a huge problem of goal not because the forwards actually, but is normal that nobody have more goals than falcao
     
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  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Queiroz era:


    Scorers:

    5 Muriel (Brasil 2 ,Panama and Venezuela (2))
    4 Duvan (Peru, Argentina, Qatar and Venezuela)
    3 Falcao (Japan, Panama and Chile)
    3 Uribe ( Peru 2 and Ecuador)
    1 Cuellar (Paraguay)
    1 Roger Martinez (Argentina)
    1 Tesillo (Panama)
    1 Morelos (Peru)
    1 Lerma (Chile)
    1 James (Ecuador)

    Assistors:

    3 Stefan Medina (Peru, Ecuador and Chile)
    2 Cuadrado (Panama and Venezuela)
    2 James (Argentina and Qatar)
    2 Mojica (Venezuela and Chile)
    1 Roger Martinez (Peru )
    1 Arias (Paraguay)
    1 Lerma (Argentina)
    1 Duvan (Brasil)
    1 Cardona (Panama)

    18 matches, 21 goals.
     
  11. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Rueda Era:

    Scorers:

    5 Luis Diaz (Brasil, Argentina, Perú (3)
    2 Borja (Peru and Argentina)
    1 Mina (Peru)
    1 Muriel (Argentina)
    1 Cuadrado (Peru)
    1 Cardona (Ecuador)


    Assistors:

    2 Cuadrado (Argentina and Brasil)
    1 Stefan Medina (Peru)
    1 Muriel (Perú)
    1 Camilo Vargas (Peú)
    1 Duvan Zapata (Peru)
    1 Borja ( Ecuador)
    1 Cardona (Argentina)


    2 pks (muriel and borja), one free kick goal (cuadrado)
     
  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Rueda Era:
    Scorers:

    6 Luis Diaz (Brasil, Argentina, Perú (3), Chile)
    4 Borja (Peru, Argentina Chile (2) )
    2 Cuadrado (Peru and Paraguay)
    1 Mina (Peru)
    1 Muriel (Argentina)
    1 Cardona (Ecuador)
    1 Roger Martinez (Bolivia)


    Assistors:

    2 Cuadrado (Argentina and Brasil)
    1 Stefan Medina (Peru)
    1 Muriel (Perú)
    1 Camilo Vargas (Peú)
    1 Duvan Zapata (Peru)
    1 Borja ( Ecuador)
    1 Cardona (Argentina)
    1 Borre/Yairo (Chile)


    4 pks (Muriel, Cuadrado and borja(2)), one free kick goal (cuadrado)
     
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  13. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Remarkably we are the second top scoring team halfway through the qualifiers.

    The scoring situation is pretty good - we just can't have days off getting obliterated like we did last November.
     
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  14. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I am shocked that only Brazil has scored more goals than us and only by 3 goals. And we still have plenty of room for improvement.

    But I am disturbed that only Bolivia and Peru have given up more goals than us. Granted it was the Ecuador game that has the biggest impact on us. But our defense needs to wake up. Some of the goals we give up are just too WTF
     
  15. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yes. Dumb goals. Like just close out against Bolivia. Make subs so your guys don't give up a stamina goal like last night when we got overrun on their lone goal. Etc.
     
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  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I missed an assist:

    Rueda Era:
    Scorers:

    6 Luis Diaz (Brasil, Argentina, Perú (3), Chile)
    4 Borja (Peru, Argentina Chile (2) )
    2 Cuadrado (Peru and Paraguay)
    1 Mina (Peru)
    1 Muriel (Argentina)
    1 Cardona (Ecuador)
    1 Roger Martinez (Bolivia)


    Assistors:

    2 Cuadrado (Argentina and Brasil)
    1 Stefan Medina (Peru)
    1 Muriel (Perú)
    1 Camilo Vargas (Peú)
    1 Duvan Zapata (Peru)
    1 Borja ( Ecuador)
    1 Cardona (Argentina)
    1 Borre/Yairo (Chile)
    1 Roger Martinez (chile)


    4 pks (Muriel, Cuadrado and borja(2)), one free kick goal (cuadrado)
     
  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    Duvan and Muriel have to wake up if they want to add to this list.

    Based on last night I think their time is running out.
     
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  18. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Duvan - not worried about.

    Muriel - I think he may get the same treatment guarin got under pekerman.
     
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  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

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    #794 HomietheClown, Sep 11, 2021
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2021
    The more Borja plays the more Duvan should worry though.

    And yes, Muriel does not seem to have a defined role with Rueda based on his last few games.
     
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  20. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Borre also has to start putting some in the net. He's getting his chances but needs to be much more clinical. I do like him and Borja on top. Two quality players that offer a lot of danger on top but also do a bit of the dirty work when off the ball.
     
  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    To me Santos Borre is exactly who I thought he was for years now.
    He is not accurate as a shooter and we cannot depend on him to score goals. I would never, ever put him alone up top as a 9.

    That said, as a secondary striker he positions himself well, passes well and sets up his teammates well for goals.
    Eventually he might start scoring which is a bonus since I have low expectations for him to do that.
     
  22. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    MORE? Ha! That's generous!

    Poor guy needs a lucky break to chill out and have the game slow down in the box for him.
     
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  23. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That's true - but if he keeps missing chances that do arise either Sini, Cucho or even Lucho could play as second striker (with the others playing a bit further back in midfield) and might be more clinical. You could also play double 9 with Duvan too and get solid work rate.

    Lots of options and Borre just needs to settle down or others deserve shots there too.
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
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    #799 HomietheClown, Sep 13, 2021
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2021
    I see this eventually being the case. Ideally for me Sinisterra or Cucho or even your guy Valoyes can take that spot on the field.

    But Santos Borre plays better with his back to the goal holding the ball than all of those guys so he has that going for him.
    Also he has a good chemistry with JuanFer since the played a lot together at River.

    I also liked the way he filled in for Cuadrado against Uruguay and held his own for about 55 minutes or so. Then played sloppy after that but I still give him kudos.
     
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  25. krass

    krass Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Borrè getting replaced is sth that can easily happen considering Luis Diaz is almost a second striker.
    If that's the case I'd like to see Sinisterra and kind of overload our left side (just imaging for a sec Y.M.C.A and the Luchos combo with Diaz+ Sinisterra) or use another attacking MF
     

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