SBC 2020, US vs Spain on March 8

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by Semblance17, Mar 7, 2020.

  1. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    If they had a finisher or two then they might even give the US a run for #1. But, without a finisher, the are no better than where you put them at 5th to 7th.
     
  2. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly it's surprisingly how quick Spain has developed within the last 5 years. I'm incredibly shocked that they didn't make it further in the WWC 19', I forgot who eliminated them.. Sweden or Germany?, they seem to be level with France, England, Germany and The Netherlands and could have easily beat those other teams last Summer. JMO
     
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  3. Caversham

    Caversham Member

    Oct 25, 2015
    Is this sarcasm? We eliminated them, probably our closest match.
     
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  4. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    The interesting matchup will be Spain- England.
     
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  5. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    LOL

    Rich
     
  6. hocbz

    hocbz Member

    Feb 15, 2016
    Front line should be Press - Lloyd - Tobin. Only thing Rapinoe is good for is set pieces, and Press, with more experience, is proving she's every bit as good. Williams doesn't have the skill on the ball or game IQ to really do much of anything other than try to beat people with straight line pace.
     
  7. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
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  8. RevsRule

    RevsRule Member+

    NE Revs, LAFC
    Jun 9, 1999
    N. Eastern, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was watching the clip of the goal and I have to say... first of all great finish but getting past that.... Press simply makes things happen. I really hope she is now rated as the starter... she saved our butts today with that cross. Rapinoe had 60+ minutes and did little. Press comes in and sets up the winner 20 minutes later.
    Also, Vlat has to do something about Lloyd as a starter. She is past her expiration date and maybe is a late game sub now but not a starter. Kind of the same for Heath and Rapinoe. Every player reaches the end of their usefulness. Some like Mia, Julie Fouty have enough sense to go when its their time. Others like Abby, Lilly have to be told its over. We now have 3 that are either there or close to there but are still hanging on. We must start getting younger soon. Who knows if there will even be an olympics? Lloyd is the biggest problem IMO. We really have no backup for her right now and that needs to be addressed. It's kind of like when Klinsmann went to the WC with just Jozy and no Donovan. Jozy goes down and we were screwed
     
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  9. RevsRule

    RevsRule Member+

    NE Revs, LAFC
    Jun 9, 1999
    N. Eastern, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My money is on Spain. England struggled against Japan. Spain and Japan are very similar but Spain is better
     
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  10. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm telling y'all the criticism of Williams is just going to be ongoing - at times relentless, at other times insidious. I'm not saying she's a Ballon d'Or kind of player but other people have their favorites and they will just never give her the credit she's earned.
    Today, when she took it to the line and looked to cut it back, if Press was in the game, or one of her North Carolina teammates (McDonald or Hamilton), or if Lavelle was in an advanced position, they would've met her pass for a great scoring chance. Because they would've read the play in time to know where they needed to be.
     
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  11. Bob Lamm

    Bob Lamm Member

    Mar 7, 2016
    New York City
    In my view, today's game is a valuable reminder that it's not going to be an easy ride to an Olympic gold medal. One serious blunder against a good team could be a disaster.
     
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  12. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm really looking forward to Spain/England and I'm glad it looks like I'll be able to watch it.
     
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  13. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    She's fighting for a spot on the Olympic squad, she has to do better than what she showed tonight. Everyone who isn't doing their job is going to be criticized on this squad. All these players are fair game and nobody gets an excuse to be just okay. Lynn Williams went pretty much 90 minutes without anything to show except a lucky draw on a foul close to the box. We can't just take her because she is fast, especially if she's not doing much in the end and letting those balls get away from her. Tobin Heath may be slower but at least she's more patient with the ball.
     
  14. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well our achilles heel seems to be with technical teams like Spain but Spain didn't qualify for the Olympics so the next best technical side is the one we're facing on Wednesday, Japan. They will likely run into us during the Olympics but they seem to be in a transition right now and they won't be at their strongest. I'm quite surprised that they aren't any better closer to the Olympics as they are the hosts and need to showcase what they're made of. Unfortunately it seems that Japan isn't going to be ready to compete for the best during the Olympics but you never know what will happen in a tournament. They are still classy AF, and organized and incredibly fun to watch.
     
  15. Smallchief

    Smallchief Member+

    Oct 27, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    If I were going to pick out a forward who hasn't done much for a while, it would be Heath.

    Williams didn't do much, but she did put in one good cross that could have turned into a goal. I was rather amazed in one instance when the Spanish center back stayed with her pace-for-pace for about 30 yards.

    I thought Spain played the US equally for about 75 minutes and then either wore out or started playing for the tie rather than a win.

    Ertz is certainly looking like the player of the tournament.
     
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  16. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    She was the more dangerous on the frontline in the 1st half, I think. In some ways, she's almost too fast. Occasionally, you'll see others not make the run with her (hmm, Rapinoe) because they can't match her speed or because they don't think she'll make the turn/cut. In any case, I do like her better on the wing; she doesn't play the #9 spot as well as Lloyd, imo. Her holdup play is not as good, and she's not as consistent on passing as some others. She also wastes chances (but then so does Lloyd and others; e.g., Heath has only scored once this year while I think Williams has 3.) But she has bright moments, and her pace makes her dangerous as well as her nose for the goal. In my book, she makes the Olympic roster. I also heard Vlatko is high on her. And if its between Williams and McDonald, then I say Williams. But who knows what will happen?

    On another note, Press is doing everything she can to say she should start consistently. I think Vlatko is testing different combos on the frontline, but by the time the dust settles as long as Press maintains form, she should be penciled into every starting lineup.
     
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  17. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another question: will we see the likes of Krieger, Short, Davidson, Sullivan, or Pugh in the next match? How much squad rotation will there be?
     
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  18. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because I had wondered about the armband change and maybe some of you had, too:

     
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  19. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On that note, I just saw this:

     
  20. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Vlatko answers this question, too:

     
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  21. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe a little bit of both but I think at some point, they decided to play for a tie. They intentionally took the foot off the gas in my eyes.
     
  22. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I still want to see Horan at center forward. At this time I think she would be a better hold up player and I know her heading is superior. She is also, at this time, a better passer and finisher in front of goal than anybody else on the team. Speed up the middle is not needed too much but Horan is OK in that department as well.

    The only other player that I think could fill that spot as well would be Ertz and playing her that far forward would take some of her best attributes out of the game. However it would mean that by the time the second half started many of the opposing central defenders would be so bruised they might be unable to move effectively. The only central defenders that I think "might" be able to stand up to her is the Germans. But it would be a pretty close call and it would take at least two German defenders to stand up to Ertz.

    But the one thing our current coach seems to lack is imagination, so we will see neither alternative in the foreseeable future. With the current coaching we have real quality but a lot of conservationism. That is not bad and it bodes pretty well for the short term, through the Olympics. But after the Olympics I REALLY hope that we see some real attempts to innovate this team. As good as we are if we do not get better we will no longer be the lead dog.

    Remember, "If you are not the lead dog your view never changes."
     
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  23. Bob Lamm

    Bob Lamm Member

    Mar 7, 2016
    New York City
    At the moment, five players seem to be competing for three slots: Lloyd, Rapinoe, Heath, Press, and Williams. (We have no idea if Morgan will be genuinely ready to enter that competition.) Of the five, Press has been by far the best player in this year's games. Barring a big change, she's got to be a starter in the games that count and perhaps play all 90 minutes.
     
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  24. abecedarian

    abecedarian Member+

    Mar 25, 2009
    SSSomerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anybody know how the US was able to make four substitutions (Press, Heath, Horan and MacDonald)? Are those the tournament rules? I wasn't able to find anything online (though admittedly I could have looked harder).
     
  25. Mills

    Mills Member

    Aug 23, 2019
    I don't think that it's missing from her game, but, rather, that other teams have figured out that she's dangerous and have been doing a much better job marking her.
     
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