News: Saturday, Nov 14, 2015

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  1. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2 Fiosfan, Nov 14, 2015
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  2. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    So, this ...
    No, Peterson didn't really respond to the prompt. But look at what he did say: merging the NASL with MLS is still his professed endgame for that league.

    Sometimes in the past I've thought that the NASL is just one big scheme to force entry into MLS without paying an exorbitant expansion fee. That had faded recently, but this quote certainly bolsters that old view.
     
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  5. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
     
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  6. Lancaster FC

    Lancaster FC Member+

    Oct 2, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.ibtimes.com/mls-news-com...in-league-will-become-one-worlds-best-2184778
    International Buisness Times

    some really good quotes in here: a worthwhile read.

    I'd would love to see a video of THE DON actually saying this...
     
  7. Ferdinand Cesarano

    NYCFC
    Sep 21, 2005
    New York City
    Club:
    Chelsea FC

    He said "play each other at the end" (emphasis added). This comment surely refers to the World Series, in which the champions of each league face one other. There is nothing in the quote which can be interpreted as expressing a desire for a merger of the leagues.

    It has been established that MLS has its model. Any NASL ownership group is free to petition to buy into that model and leave the NASL, as Montreal and Minnesota have done. But the two leagues' operations work on different principles; so no possibility of a "merger" can even be imagined.
     
  8. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    For clarity's sake.





     
  9. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kraft and Rowlins would like to see the cap doubled too.


     
  11. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Roth has had a good week.
     
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  12. 4four4

    4four4 Member+

    Nov 13, 2013
    Land of 10,000 Lakes
    If we see a 3 to 4 million dollar increase in the salary cap the quality of play would improve drastically. I'll see it to believe it.
     
  13. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    I'd take half to the salary cap, and half to qualified youth coaches and scouts.
     
  14. Soccergodlss

    Soccergodlss Member+

    Jun 21, 2004
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Kaiserslautern
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teams would more likely just waste more money. Lesser players would just demand more because its there.
     
  15. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    They can demand all they want.

    A good GM goes and gets better caliber players.

    Of course those won't be Yanks. Just because there is more money, and this is a US league, doesn't mean I have to pay the US players more if they aren't worth it. This isn't England.;)

    Most of the players who accepted the last CBA more easily were from the back half of the league.

    Why? A lot more cap money would mean that many of their jobs would be in jeopardy.

    No matter what politik talk you hear....that was a huge reason why the cap number stayed low, and soft cap mechanisms grew. These guys don't have many options. Playing in the US is a pretty nice perk compared to what many could be doing.

    More money would be better quality overall, but a lot less Yanks right now.
     
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  16. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    TT is pissed at these guys for sure..
     
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  17. 4four4

    4four4 Member+

    Nov 13, 2013
    Land of 10,000 Lakes
    Exactly, the NASL would benefit.
     
  18. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #19 OleGunnar20, Nov 15, 2015
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2015
    any rise in the cap of that amount needs to be accompanied by a change to the inter/domestic roster rules ... swapping from 8 intl spots per team (tradable) to something like the UK has, a system of "at minumum X number of players trained in US/CAN for Y years before they are 22" ... i'd propose 8 "domestics" registered per team (if you just include the 20 man main roster, with all the off budget spots needing to be for domestics) or 12 "domestics" if you just consider the whole 28 man roster. For Canadian teams you could make half either number need to be Can "domestics"

    8 (per 20) or 12 (per 28) are plenty of spots over 17 (soon to be 21) american teams for all of the "national team pool" level talent (current or potential) players to play their trade and to grow and gain experience in a top level competitive environment ... MLS is not an American journeyman soccer employment charity .... there doesn't need to be a spot in the league for the likes of Tony Taylor or Marc Burch, that is what NASL/USL are for.

    Every MLS team could replace 5 of the current ~100k or under american space fillers with 300k-500k internationals and the league would transform in quality.
     
  19. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's already reporting their offensiveness to the President of the School.. ..;)
     
  20. pichichi2010

    pichichi2010 Member+

    Oct 24, 2010
    In your nets
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, change the roster rules, if the change happens overnight, which it won't...
     
  21. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    I see you must of had a few too many tonight - So if your statement is remotely true that would mean the DP's and all the foreign guys that were getting market value at the front half of the league wanted to strike as opposed to the North American players the were paid below less than their foreign teammates for what they were contributing.

    I thought were such a great business man. If so you would have realized they'd get crushed in a strike as older foreign players have no vested interest in the league or the union and thus large numbers of players would have crossed the picket line.

    The lack of options exist for numerous reasons including work permits, concerns about familiarity with culture, poor fit transfer market and playing style impact their ability to sign abroad. However, the primary thing holding down their salaries is there is no competition within the league for their services within the country they want to live in which is why MLS has worked so hard to limit the kind of free agency found in other US leagues.

    Not very likely. While the league is not completely maxed out on work permits, they are close. While the league runs the USSF, significantly raising the the number of foreign players would get some strong push back from the Youth and Professional segments of the board.
     

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