Rumor: Grabavoy to Chicago

Keep in mind that Peter Wilt and the rest of the Fire organization watched Ned for two years with the Reserves before Ned went Prop40. They are fully aware of his capabilities and his limitations. A number of the posts on the Fire forum have commented on the "age" of Armas and Marsch plus the need for a strong outside right mid. The Costa Rican connection with Sampson might be pretty attractive for Herron--who knows???

 

That statement makes no sense whatsover!! Ned is not worth any of several Fire players--he is not a franchise type of player and if he has an attitude issue when he's not playing then the Fire would be crazy to pick him up until he decides that he isn't God's gift to them or anyone else in the MLS. Be reasonable!!

 

Re: Grabavoy to Chicago

At least once he has come on as a sub for Cobi on the right.

 

I'm not sold on Grabavoy, and yes, I am familiar with "The legend of Lincolnway".

First of all, let me say that I know he is talented. Very talented. It's just that if you guys want him to come to the Fire so that he can get playing time, you're in for a big disappointment. He is not, I repeat NOT, better than Rolfe, Jaqua, Thiago, or Mapp. As a forward, we also have Reiter, Herron, and Chad Barrett. Unfortunately for Ned, those are the players that would keep him on the bench in Chicago. They're also all young, which means we wouldn't give them up in a trade for a player who isn't as good as them right now.

Also, unless this trade was made for that draft pick, or a really useless player(by the staff's estimation), it might not happen. As Friendly Fire Fan said "Peter Wilt and the rest of the Fire organization watched Ned for two years with the Reserves before Ned went Prop40". They also passed on drafting him THREE TIMES in that draft. That should let you know how they feel about him.

That said, I would really like to get him here in Chicago, as long as he can deal with not being a starter. He'll get time as a sub (though Dave never makes offensive subs), in the US Open cup, and when call ups hurt our squad. It would be great to have him here in Chicago.

 

But the Fire started logan Pause on the right wing a few games ago and had Buete in their lineup yesterday.

Grabavoy had an absolute monster game against the Fire toward the end of last summer, and then almost immediately after that has disappeared forever without much of an explanation from Sampson.

I've seen the kid play a bunch of time and have seen nothing but good from him. It's hard to imagine that a midfield that constantly fields guys like Marsch, Buete and Pause couldn't use his services.

 

Even when you figure in that all of those guys play completely different roles than Grabavoy? You listed three defensive midfielders. All of whom, while less skilled than Ned, are better defenders. Buete and Marsch are central defensive midfielders that are needed there in order for Thiago and the others to be so offensive minded. And even they only started because others were injured or called up for the Nats, so "constantly fields" is a bit of a stretch. Buete got his first start wednesday, and Marsch is far from a first team regular. Pause was moving up into midfield from the right side of defense, so they can't even be compared. Ned certainly isn't a fullback, which is what Pause has been used as.

I would love to get him though, as we don't have many offensive options off the bench.

 

Who would that be, Armas?

 

The only thing the Fire need really badly right now is a right-sided attacking mid to balance our formation. If Grabavoy can play as a wide boy, he'll find some time on the field. If not, then we don't need him this year except as cover for Thiago, and next year we'll have Capano back (hopefully). If he was being looked at as a replacement for Armas or Marsch, I guess I can see it, but I don't know much about the player and have only seen him a few times.

We don't have any roster space (well, we have a developmental spot) and we just passed the waiver deadline (right) so it woud have to be a player-for-player deal. We do have a lot of forwards, I guess, and Andy Herron does seem the likeliest, I suppose. I just hate the Galaxy too much to want to give them anyone but Leo Griffin.

 

Re: Grabavoy to Chicago

I seem to remember him doing welll when he was given a chance to play.

Wasn't this after a long stint on the bench but towards the end of Sigis tenure?

 

For the most part I have to say that I agree with this statement.

 

Please give LA Leonard Griffin even if we don't get Ned. I don't think Leo could mark my grandmother. Grabavoy did look good in HS and in games against the Fire last year. Nice fit with the move to the south side, but where does he play? Right mid seems best, but is he better than Thorrington, Marsh, or Jaqua there? Herron for Grabavoy seems like the Fire is giving up too much. Griffin for Grabavoy seems closer if the Fire throw in, say, Buete?

 

can't have enough Will County guys on the Fire roster

 

Is Thorrington injured (again)? He's played all of 70 minutes for the Fire. So in this case if Grabavoy is healthy he would be better than Thorrington.

 

At this point I am doubting that anything will happen on the LAG side. Either they are working something big, or they are doing nothing at all. My guess is Naldo will still be with us in July.

 

Yes he's hurt again. This guy is becoming the worst spent allocation money in fire history.

 

This rumor bugs me. In my opinion, Ned Grabavoy is nowhere near the worth of Andy Herron. If the Galaxy get Herron for Grabavoy, they got a steal and a half. Hopefully Chicago sends them the second round draft pick. If not that, make it Leonard Griffin. Anything else would suck.

 

Thiago is out for 4 weeks, or more, with a meniscus tear in his knee.

 

Add me to the list of Fire fans who don't want Herron to go, in order to bring in Ned.

Griffin? Yes
Thorrington? Yes
Buete? Probably

But not Herron.

 

This is very true but don't know if I would want to give up herron for a young unproven player.

 

Oh, dear god no.

 

Actually yes LA could take him, we are currently using 3 of 4 SI slots, Chinchilla, Naldo and Pando, with one slot left.

Cap wise maybe, but I think Dougie the rat can squeak his way out of this one.