RUCKRUNDE: 2020

Discussion in 'Borussia Moenchengladbach' started by LuckyStriker, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. LuckyStriker

    LuckyStriker Member+

    Favorite club? a German one..........
    Apr 14, 2010
    in exile-Statute of Limitations yet to expire
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ..........and they may very well be correct, relatively speaking...................
     
  2. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    About PK's eh??? Interesting b/c i wanted to bring the topic up here..i am a firm believer that PK's should be taken by 1 or 2 experst in every team, its such a no-brainer...this whole ME/2/Movement in football is BS ...and that's my opinion! ( Anyone remembers Daems??)
    Today was a tough one...the boys worked hard for it..and again the nightmare of the Hoppenheim game was coming alive..glad we could break the spell on their turf finally but more important than that ...was the 3 points!
    Dortmund still rides the success wave...i thought Streich and Co would somehow come away from that came with something but...
    And now our fav nemesis comes to BORUSSIA PARK...i want to break them so bad it is not even funny. As much as Rose has changed a lot in a very short time-frame...am not sure we can still get the BVB monkey off our back...even at home:whistling::whistling::cautious::cautious::confused::confused::rolleyes::speechless::speechless::ninja::devilish::alien:
     
  3. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    About PK's eh??? Interesting b/c i wanted to bring the topic up here..i am a firm believer that PK's should be taken by 1 or 2 experts in every team, its such a no-brainer...this whole ME/2/Movement in football is BS ...and that's my opinion! ( Anyone remembers Daems??)
    Today was a tough one...the boys worked hard for it..and again the nightmare of the Hoppenheim game was coming alive..glad we could break the spell on their turf finally but more important than that ...was the 3 points!
    Dortmund still rides the success wave...i thought Streich and Co would somehow come away from that came with something but...
    And now our fav nemesis comes to BORUSSIA PARK...i want to break them so bad it is not even funny. As much as Rose has changed a lot in a very short time-frame...am not sure we can still get the BVB monkey off our back...even at home:whistling::whistling::cautious::cautious::confused::confused::rolleyes::speechless::speechless::ninja::devilish::alien:
     
  4. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    #54 Bananenflanke, Mar 1, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2020
    perhaps you have already noticed ;-): occasionally I don't like to coincide too much (Robert Altman once said: „If you and I agreed about everything, then one of us is unnecessary.“)
    but in this case I do!

    1. Stindl
    2. Bense
    3. Plea
    end of discussion, none of them should have any "oh, I don't feel so well today"-thoughts and none of them should be pissed when Rose establishes a clear ranking
    Daems penalties weren't always unstoppable but he had the right mindset (and the goalies knew) and he didn't ever make a fuss about it... all this fidgeting immediately preceding a penalty has to be avoided... it's just distracting and Rose should now this... sometimes I wish there would be 'special teams': we could bench Daems just for penalties (and use him at least until he's 50 ;-)

    and yes, while this is my table,
    1. Borussia 46P
    2. L'kusen 43P
    3. seems nobody can keep the pace
    I fervently hope we finish ahead of Favre, Hazard & their 'Heiland' (saviour), too!

    crucial win! (L'kusen won six in a row and is facing Leibzsch in Saxony today)
    but we have too learn to defend a lead with more self-evidence...

    what makes me wonder for weeks now: what happened to Benes? he did well and now he's only benchwarming? sure, the intern. matches are squandered but still...
     
  5. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Totally agree....with keeping some players just for PK's etc! Its actually brilliant....call me crazy but one of our best players ( mindset wise) for PK is Gintero_O
    But above all is a coach that's compared to kloppo...not making it clear whos our PK specialist...lets rewind..many of the PK we have lost...ended up costing us the game and valuable 3 points!!!:ninja::speechless::speechless::speechless::speechless::ninja::mad::mad::mad::mad:
    ABSOLUTELY on board with that aRss Lucy Favre...i really want us to not only kick their behinds but also on top of them...somehow tho past several years they have always steamrolled us:(
     
  6. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    thanks for not making me 'unnecessary!' ;-))))
    Bonhof some weeks ago was raving about Favre in TV, seems you know something Bonhof doesn't know ;-)
    (as told before) I absolutely do not suffer from any kind of Favre-aversion
    I just want to finish ahead for 'sporting reasons', healthy club-rivalry, whatever and only a tiny tiny tiny ;-) bit because of hurt personal vanity...
    and the latter more because of Hazard and Dahoud (whose transfer to D‘mund turned out to be an impressive & lasting career-full brake) than because of Favre: he saved our ass! the wonderful Borussia of 2020? unthinkable without Favre!

    but the next two matches are gonna be tough: even the goats are one of the stronger Bundesliga-sides at the moment

    "Invest even more or take a deep breath? The answer is often more of the latter with us. We should work on this and stay even more acrid/biting to completely close the thing."
    [Rose]

    Stindl seems getting closer and closer to the old & great Lars!
    2nd goal, a sequence of the captain doing the right thing, showed how smart and useful he still his
    Stindl's wife also immediately sent a message to her husband, in which she jokingly expressed that she really was surprised at how flexible her husband still is. [ouch!!!!]

    recurring transfer rumor: Dimitrios Limnios of PAOK
     
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  7. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Favre+BVB=Very biiter taste on my mouth...can name a few reasons but it would be a waste of time and space here:speechless::ninja::speechless:
    As for Stindl, the poor guy has done so much for us...and is still very much a key element...u make him look like an oldtimer ready for retirement..lol:cautious::D:eek:
    Yes, the goats have picked up much momentum and are playing smooth...a game that could have been much easier for us a few weeks back is now turning into some major turning point for Gladbach...plus we would be on the road against them. Still good to know we have a game less and 3 major points up for grabs:p Being a derby will hopefully be more of a boost for us than them...just have this feeling:sneaky::thumbsup::alien::devilish::alien:
     
  8. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    #58 Bananenflanke, Mar 5, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2020
    Borussia & the health authority talked yesterday: Gladbach - BVB got an interim clearance (other countries act more rigid, that's for sure)
    yet NRW's health minister gave a half-baked recommendation: supporters from the Kreis Heinsberg should better stay home (money will be refunded and an additional ticket for one of next season's intern. matches is promised)
    the county commissioner of the region isn't flashed at all: "It breaks the heart of the Heinsberger when he cannot go and watch Borussia."
     
  9. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The poor Bumblebee will be crushed by 2 goal difference....and that brace might very well come by the foot of PLEA, Oh what Stindl might inflict is a whole different story during the 90 mins...while Plea and Embo are doing their thang, am not even considering Thuram in the mix...remember the 12-0..oh yaaaa..think about it again! :thumbsup::D:D;):ninja::ninja::cautious::rolleyes::alien::alien::devilish::devilish:
    This time is going down by the numbers....you can take my words to the BANK!
     
  10. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    #60 Bananenflanke, Mar 7, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2020
    i don't go to banks! all my funds are coffered in my money sock!

    the bad thing: D'mund looks more stable than before
    the good thing: defence is still shaky (but the engine room is better protected now)
    the bad thing: the Heiland and especially Can (see above) are first-rate additions
    the good thing: we will not suffer from the mandatory Reus goal

    seems we better should be super-pro-active, draw near to them and keep them busy all the time...
    but with D'mund under Favre you'll never know... often they look like they can easily beat every opponent (especially at home) but subsequently they loose to an already severely battered Bremen side... I don't get it: stabilizing defence was the first and most casual thing Favre did when he took the job at Gladbach
    at the end, I guess, I would be pleased with a draw...

    [I hope we won't find out later that this match taking place at all has been a reckless mistake...]
     
  11. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We simply don't know--but if a game causes a major outbreak, it seems to me that it was going to happen no matter what--if not there then somewhere else.

    I mean, my Crew is playing in Seattle tonight....

    Probably the only way to stop it (and maybe not even then) is a total quarantine for everyone for a month. But that won't happen.
     
  12. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    slowing down is all we can do as long as there is no vaccine and every new infection isn't helping at all to do so
    the leading german virologist at least said this match better should have been cancelled (or played in front of empty stands I guess)... I rather go with him than the authorities who are only gonna start a blame game (too many entities over here) afterwards... and like elsewhere the main competence of politicians over here is t-a-l-k-i-n-g ;-)
    the district south of Gladbach has >200 confirmed infections... and most likely a multiple of unknown infections... the first infected person in Poland visited Heinsberg during the carnival season: seems half of North-Rhine-Westphalia and parts of Eastern Europe have been at this tiny cowtowns' carnival session (or know people from there), at least the catholic-Dutch are carnival crazy on their own and didn't need to travel across the border ;-)
    but you're right: we just don't know

    arghhhhhhhhh: L'kusen 4-0 (11th win out of 13)
     
  13. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Did my best to boost our crew out here bf the game...yet another VERY bitter pill to swallow!
     
  14. LuckyStriker

    LuckyStriker Member+

    Favorite club? a German one..........
    Apr 14, 2010
    in exile-Statute of Limitations yet to expire
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $- spend or bend.
     
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  15. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    well as ken said if bf many times these guys even RBL and a few others almost have two teams at their disposal....when as good of a squad we have at the moment we are still in many ways one dimentional......we still go huffing and puffing if we wanna push it to our limits over 90 min...without much alternatives...oh well and the same story goes on..:speechless::speechless::speechless::speechless: we where AGAIN screwed by the ref tho...pk on JH
     
  16. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    yes, very bitter, generally and also because of this:
    instead of the Reus-pill we got the Hazard-pill.... even more ill-tasting

    except -that for my liking- I didn't clearly show at all
    namely in none of the three matches this season
    some tiny improvements and we could have won ALL!
    and as Hans-Gunter already has remarked: like in D'mund another indisputable penalty denied... thanks to the SAME weak ref and the usual bunch of sleepyheads at the monitors in Goattown...
    did the justly hyped Heiland in this match looked great to some degree at hall?

    but generally I agree: in the long term and medium-term... but not with Rose this season
    in other seasons it showed and it might show next season, too

    for my liking we are neither one dimensional nor lacking a second team at all... the situation we are in on both counts is much MORE comfortable than under Hecking and even Favre! with Heck everybody knew ('calculable' was the keyword for months!) with Rose nobody knows what's coming next: neither tactically nor in respect of the used players
    IN THE SHORT TERM you might still lose these D'mund-matches because of match-luck AND/OR daily condition AND/OR just some 2or3 percents missing AND/OR the new generation of highly mediocre German refs etc.
    IN THE LONG/MID-TERM you increasingly lose because of the overall quality [this gap is not closable acc. to Eberl -> estimated transfervalue: 312M vs 637M]... and part of the 'quality' is the often sloppy passing and the much too frequent unforced turnovers [maybe I'm a little bit fixating on this ;-)]

    anyway: might be the last Gladbach-match at home with an audience for some time but DFL (German Soccer League) desperately seeks to keep the league running...
     
  17. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like no fans for a while. Sad for the Derby on Wednesday.
     
  18. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    it's historic, first Bundesliga-'Geisterspiel' ever
    the right decision I guess ... apart from that the goattown-director has it right: people in leading positions have to l-e-a-d... instead we get consistent inconsistency... Union is planning to play in front of public...
    Swiss tabloit BLICK visited Borussia Park on saturday asking themselves how it's possible that 54.000 are on the stands while 10km away kindergardens and schools are closed... only to find out that -given Swiss League-soccer has been cancelled - the group of Swiss visitors in Gladbach were more numerous than ever... well, I spend quite some time with soccer but I'm not that crazy...
    550 cardholders from Heinsberger didn't approach the saturday-match... but there are more than 60 Borussia fan clubs in the region I heard...

    apart from the health aspect it's pretty bad too: home advantage & 2 million € net are gone... while the Hopps, Hoenesses or RB f.e. can easily carry this it hurts Borussia (not to talk of clubs like Paderborn, Bremen or Augsburg and even more: extremely closely calculating 2nd & 3rd-tier clubs... life-threatening for some!)
    and it's just a matter of time: infected players!
    I hope we win or draw, reconquer 4th place, and afterwards DLF is gonna 'call it a season' ;-)))
     
  19. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    I'm not that enthusiastic to face the goats right now: they won the last three matches (10-1 on aggregate) and 8! of the last 10 matches! (losses ag. B'yern and D'mund)
    Zak most likely out (but not severely hurt), Neuhaus suspended

    the goat-fanzine EFFZEH published an interesting and valuable 'analysis' in early january
    https://effzeh.com/1-fc-koln-borussia-monchengladbach-vergleich-derby-situation/2/
    Gladbach was 2nd at this time and 1.FC 15th and their supporters as usual had the blues and were suffering from an inferiority complex ;-)
    they were asking themselves what went wrong and when it went wrong given the fact that there are many similiarities between the two clubs (the region, the tradition, the 'structure' of the club and so on... well, apart from Cologne being -as Americans might say- the much bigger 'market'; fourfold the population of Gladbach I have to add)

    no time to go in detail just this:
    1) they refer to spring 2011 as some kind of dividing line: Gladbach, placed 18th, was in extremely dangerous waters (actually the water already was up to our nostrils) and the goats were close to kick us out of the league because we had to face them at home... what happened was that we beat them 5-1, one of Favre's many masterstrokes to incredibly & finally save our ass... from this moment on it went down for Cologne (actually they weren't exactly thriving before ;-) while Gladbach lastingly entered a new level hereafter
    2) they are raving about Eberl's lasting right touch with roster analysis and when acting on the transfermarket and they concede that Gladbach although selling players for huge amounts is still increasing the overall quality
    3) they quote the author of the freshly published book „Das einzig wahre Rheinische Derby“: the one and only derby of the Rhine, 123x goats vs. foals
    “One gets the impression that those responsible at Borussia leave their personal feelings and vanities like coats at the cloakroom when they enter the office. All that counts is the well-being of Borussia, everything else is subordinated to this goal.”

    ok, that's the long-term development, short-term I'm a little bit unsettled, some things in a wider sense feel just wrong at the moment...
     
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  20. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doop!

    BTW, Schippers today noted that Gladbach will lose about 2 million euros per canceled home game....
     
  21. Bananenflanke

    Bananenflanke Member

    Jul 23, 2014
    borderland, Maas drainage basin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Faroe Islands
    #71 Bananenflanke, Mar 13, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2020
    historical first Ghost-derby ("it didn't feel like soccer at all")
    historical 50th Bundesliga-win against the goats
    historical Bundesliga full break starting tuesday (restart 2nd of April... we all know that's only the plan)

    après-soccer-party (which got criticized by some afterwards, at least the team kept the distance):
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/B9mzj8HICzb/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

    remain flexible & stay healthy!
     
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  22. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It felt like a warm-up game during winter pause...but seems like so weird and bad...reminded me of back in the day when we played provincials/regionals and second division games.Lets see if the feeling would be the same with the Phoenix???The goats really had nothing exceptional to offer...and i feared them going into this game...but now Eintracht with the massive loss in Europe...must come ou of the gates fuming o_O:rolleyes::eek::geek::devilish::alien::cautious:
     
  23. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As Mrs. KG can attest to, I was crying while watching the dvr of the match. It just hit me hard all of a sudden, especially when I could hear "Die Seele Brennt" in the background of the broadcast. I had to turn it off in the 5th minute as I just could not watch.

    Stay safe folks....

    Mrs KG and I are in a risk group, so we are concerned. But trying to let our faith carry us through these tough times.
     
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  24. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I just wanted to check in on all the crew here...hope all hands are on deck and ready for battle station ( without casualties )
    Keep punching guys!
    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  25. HANS-GUNTER BRUNS

    Mar 3, 2007
    VANCOUVER-BC
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I just wanted to check in on all the crew here...hope all hands are on deck and ready for battle station ( without casualties )
    Keep punching guys!
    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     

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