F*** off. We'll damn well complain if we want to. I mean would you be uncomplaining if your team had just been forbidden from any market activity for two transfer windows? It's practically a death sentence. They've tied our hands and we'll be screwed unless we appeal this.
ya the people on romas board should all be fired after that i mean it was just stupid like if it was a world class player like a robinho or someone i guess it wouldnt be so bad but it was mexes is he really that good i mean come on this shouldve been a simple answer and that was to wait to sign him or buy him from auxerre.
i still disagree. it shouldnt matter how good or bad the player is, there are things such as class, respect, and rules. even if you wish to neglect class and respect, which is quite easy in the normal world, the rules will surely be upheld. it is just a bonehead move. i blame roma and mexes, mexes more than anyone really. he should have shown more respect to the club that had been loyal to him and help him build his name, roma should have known better as well.
I don't have a problem with Roma being punished, I just think this is ridiculously harsh. I've heard of all kinds of other crap, and UEFA or FIFA gives a small fine, or some other meaningless punishment. Roma was punished by not being able to use Mexes and paying Auxerre already. Add this and it becomes an unnecessarily terrible punishment that may lead Roma on a terrible spiral.
I take issue with the phony, cornball, self-righteous tone Astabooty and Mad Theory are taking in this forum. I don't-- and I'm sure most Roma fans don't--tell Arsenal fans how they should feel about the latest tapping up incident, or about Wegner's latest media comment that 'brings the game into disrepute'. That's for you all to sort out. And frankly, I'm not sure the two of you know what the hell you're talking about; but I do know it's really obnoxious to spout platitudes about respect and rules. Roma acquired Mexes before his contract expired at Auxerre; for that he was handed a 6-match ban--which he served, and which greatly hurt the team's fortunes last season. The club was also ordered to pay Auxerre $5.3 m euros for the player. On top of that, one might have expected a big fine from FIFA; something that would really hurt Roma (we're in financial trouble) and thereby send the right message to other clubs. Instead we've been given a ban on all market activity for TWO transfer windows. That means the only thing we can do is sell a player for cash; and it's an absolute disaster for the club, who've just come off a terrible season. And yes, it is harsh. Very harsh. So don't tell me, Astabooty, some sob story about how Mexes' disloyalty warrants this ridiculous punishment. I've been a soccer fan for 15 years and I can't remember a case where the crime and the punishment were so wildly out of whack. And as far as I'm concered, you haven't explained, in your posts, why the ban is just; all you've done is used some inflated moral language that would make f****** Bill O'Reilly blush. And I'll tell you how we feel about this thing. We're mad. Mad at FIFA. Mad at the board of directors. Mad at the way this off-season is shaping up. Plus we're mad when people who don't know their business tell us how to feel about our club. That's the sum of it. Not that I speak for every Roma fan, but I know a bunch who're thinking along the same lines. If we don't win this appeal, we're going to be in for a miserable year; it's that bleak.
I'm no fan of Roma, but it does certainly seem to be an unprecedented punishment. Especially because not only does it punish Roma, but it punishes every team that had been in talks with the club about exchanging players, not to mention the teams they'd already dealt with if the ban turns out to be retroactive. And what's with this slow punishment by water torture? First, it was a fine. Then, seemingly out of the blue, Mexes was banned for 6 games at a crucial point of the season. Now, even MORE out of the blue, this horrendous thing comes down ... what ever happened to making a ruling, meting out the punsihment, and that being the end of it? It just seems bizarre.
very few of you hate roma as I do....and part of me thinks it couldnt have happened to a better club but seriously it is ridiculous but I'm sure the punishment will be lessened...I'd bet they'll be allowed back in the market in the winter at the latest.
Very interesting point, Sue. As a Juve fan I don't doubt that you've perceived the side-effects of this ruling. It may mess up what many people thought of as Moggi's master plan--swap Miccolli & Chiellini and cash for Cassano + Mancini. (Or some such arrangement.) It is harsh. Very definitely harsh.
I recall that Ferguson and Wegner had a verbal spat this past season that 'brought the game into disrepute'. No?
disrepute, ummm..no! it was just mindless mind games going on between them. what brought the game into disrepute was mourinho accusing the ref of foul play during chelsea vs barca game last season. also we have never tapped up and player, arsenal are one of the most respected teams when it comes to the transfer window.
What are you saying --wasn't Wegner given a big fine for calling RVN a cheat? In any case it's not something I care about. I don't go on your boards to tell you how you should feel about these things.
i wouldn't call that bringing the whole game to disrepute, come on managers make comments like that all the time but wenger's was fully justified.
Sorry--I have to admit I don't know what constitutes bringing the game into disrepute in the EPL. And yeah, if I were Wegner I would have said the same, and worse. That little studs-down kick RVN executed was bad business.
now if the bloody FA would instill this type of punishment to chelsea football club, they may actually feel the effects.. instead of a silly fine.
Just off the top of my head, Flamini and Fabregas from Barcelona, so even Arsenal has their hands stained. (Also, its pretty well know that both Wenger and Arsenal are not thought of highly in France because they go after top and middle tier clubs' young players in the French first division and offer them Premiership wages and contracts that the French clubs can't compete with). And Fergie was known to tap up players in the Dutch Eiriedivisie such as Stam (why he got sacked from Manure after revealing the tap up job in his book) and Robben. That said, the Roma sanction for the Mexes deal is a tad bit harsh...oh, by like a mile!?!
okay just let me ask you roma fans. did mexes sign with roma, while under contract with auxerre, then just moved to rome and started playing for them? have i got that right?
According to Auxerre and FIFA, yes, that's what happened. Mexes (and his agent, if I recall correctly) had claimed that there was a clause in his contract with Auxerre that allowed him to leave.
and that clause didnt exist then? well, not to be a biatch here but if thats the case, i think roma and mexes got off easy. i cant think of anything more severe then this. just picking up players while theyre under contract and have them play for you with total disregard for his previous club. imagine what chelsea would be doing if roma got away with a slap on the wrist. you guys should be glad im not president of uefa cause id come down much harder on yall hehe i dont think this hurts you guys that bad though. youll have all your injured players back and hopefully youll get to keep the guys youve already signed. roma are good enough for a top four spot in my opinion. you just gotta do something about this cassano situation because you cant afford to let him sign for someone else for nothing in december/january.