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Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by VolklP19, May 21, 2020 at 9:48 PM.
Excellent post! Maybe also factor in international players. (assuming no COVID-19)
I also wonder how many girls actually get athletic scholarship money.
This is for 04? So most will be sophomores in the upcoming school year? A *LOT* can happen in the next three years. Our club team (not DA or ECNL) two (2018-2019) years ago had an outstanding team. Placed well at Disney, won state (not a huge accomplishment), finished 4th in MRL, finished 5th at Regionals.
After that year (roster of 17), three kids went to the FC Cinci academy, three others dropped out of club soccer.
In the 2019 year, we had qualified for NL based on results from the previous year. We went 0-6-1 in Nationals. The team just wasn't the same. We had 19 on the roster.
A number of kids from THAT roster have decided to either drop out or move to other clubs. According to the list the coach emailed out on who he invited, 10 were on the team last year, only six of which were on the team in 18-19. We've been told unofficially one of those six isn't coming back.
And @SuperHyperVenom is right. Look at international players. That will take away roster spots, even in D3.
As far as women's scholarship money? D1 allows 14 scholarships for women's soccer. Compare that to the 9.9 on the men's.
What @VolklP19 's spreadsheet showed me is that if your player is a good player and wants to be on a soccer team in college it is totally doable.
One thing it doesn't show is how many will actually start or play real minutes. This must exist - benchwarmers. Would you say 1/3 or 1/4 of every team don't ever play or travel with the team?
I heard that sometimes coaches recruit players to bring team GPA up. Is this true?
Regarding # of minutes. I went to our local University team (Kentucky) and went to the individual stats. https://ukathletics.com/sports/mens-soccer/stats
They were 13-5-3, so 21 games total. Four of the roster played less than 10 games.
I copied the chart and put it into Excel to calculate minutes/game. Just about everyone averaged 20+ minutes (in the games they played), with most over 30.
Now, this is only one season for one school. I did not look to see what years the players were (I would anticipate freshmen & sophomores get less playing time than upperclassmen) or if anyone had injuries (would affect playing time).
Playing time is totally dependent on the coach. Some coaches play everyone, some play just their starters. Most schools split up the money. At my daughter's school, most of the kids are on 15% or less. Then there are the few that are on 65-70% or more.
"Odds of playing D1 soccer are significantly less for US male players than female players for two primary reasons: There are almost 40% fewer Men's NCAA I soccer teams (205) than Women's teams (336) and there is a significantly higher percentage of foreign student athletes playing Men's D1 soccer (16%) than playing on Women's teams (6%). US male soccer players have much better odds (over twice) of making an NCAA III roster over a D1 roster as there are over double the teams (421 versus 205) and D3 rosters are composed of a higher average percentage of US players (97% versus 84%)".
Here's the link with that quote and statistics associated with this topic. It is more high school oriented than club, but has some in depth analysis by state and college.
2004s are sophomores or juniors with recruiting opening up for juniors June 15th. There is a huge range in the communication from various schools to players on my dd's team, from strict adherence to NCAA rules to private lunches at ID camps. I know my dd will be contacted by a few schools on the 15th, and her "dream" school will be coming in hot. Is anyone open to sharing recruiting advice/experience?
Go to camps, email them questions, know everything you can before you go. My daughter's dream school desperately wanted her, but after 3 minutes on the field with the coach, she knew she could not go there, absolutely hated him. You are driving the bus, do not rely on your club to help.
I'm wondering what kind of shenanigans are played with soph,jr.,seniors on partial scholarship...
I mean your pretty much a commodity and odds are if they screw you out of money its not like your gonna transfer...
Word travels fast though and you can easily burn a bridge with a club or cause doubt from the rest of your players
Other than your top, top school, most of them leave some scholarship money unfilled. No need to play games with the money, once they have it, they have it, unless they do something that makes the coach want to get rid of them. In my experiences, the coach hates admitting he/she made an error more than they care about almost anything else.