RIP -- Consequential Person Has Passed Away

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  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well … we finally agree on something …
    J/K lol
     
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  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    No, he never had any regrets. 100% certitude like Dubya & Cheney.
     
  3. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully not. Hopefully he is in purgatory.
     
  4. roby

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    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    This isn't Monopoly....no collecting $200....directly to....

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  5. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Can he get there if he isn't Catholic?

    I need a ruling on this.
     
  6. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Na, I want him in limbo, not knowing, forever.
     
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  7. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As long as you have a deathbed confession at the last minute, you can punch your ticket, no matter how horrible a person you were.
     
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  8. Val1

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    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
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    Arsenal FC
    Well, that's the gift the Christian god offers. But God is looking not for confession, but for repentance.
     
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  9. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does this ghoul have one redeeming quality? That is a hard question to respond....

    Kissinger at 100: How his ‘sordid’ diplomacy in Africa fuelled war in Angola and prolonged apartheid
    Historians say the involvement in Africa of the former US secretary of state, who is 100 this week, drew the US into Angola’s war and aided apartheid after the Soweto uprising

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-...genius-or-damaging-diplomacy-held-back-africa
     
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  10. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
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    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, the problem is that people like that have a belief that they are doing the right thing and to them the cost in lives and suffering is justified.

    I’m sure Videla and Pinochet also died without regrets. As did Santucho and Che Guevara. Well, maybe at the very end Che might have regretted going to Bolivia.
     
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  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that what your minister told you? Cuz as a Christian, I can tell you, that would be a unique theological perspective. God doesn’t play Pascal’s wager or its variants. You can’t outsmart God by soaking.

    In fact, that’s a pretty basic rule…if God exists, It is smarter than you are, so if you’re not fooled, It won’t be fooled either.
     
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  12. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I agree with lots of what you post. A few things I don’t.
     
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  13. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Messing with you mate. Having said that, this morning I was watching Kissinger old footage, commenting and basically admitting how the US could not tolerate a "communist" government in Chile and had to do something about it. We had that convo a couple of months ago.
     
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  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    The Chattering Class all love him. Andrea Mitchell had some chode from the Atlantic Council on along with former rep. Jane Harman who were both kissing his ass. "he didn't mind the exposes written regularly about him since he said it kept him in the limelight" Harman - "really sad (he was a friggin 100, lady!). Great intellect and as you may have heard, quite a flirt" Where's the barf bag. :sick:
     
  15. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not turning my TV on anything close news today.
    Andrea Mitchell as a journo is way past her sell by dates. She is useless...
     
  16. roby

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    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    At 100 yrs old I'd be content to have him doing the Limbo for the unforeseeable future! :devilish:
     
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  17. zaqualung

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    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I'm always fascinated by that perspective (not that it isn't true in its basic sense, of course, but to a believer of flawed logic it's gonna be as true on a deathbed as good logic!)

    But, that said, the other point of view--
    for my agnostic perspective it (God is wayy smarter and knows what you know) has always been the ultimate get-out of trouble card.
    Basically, how can a God have expected me to pick a variant of either worship or even caring about the idea of worship when God knows full well that any rationality must posit the "I can't know the truth amid any of this, or know any sure way to pick among all these competing claims." (The key here, I think, is to understand that in bygone times when religions were forming most people weren't aware of competing claims.) This rationale then begs the more often than not overlooked question, of, given that, why would I want to know, if I am not being told clearly by God about God? God must know that as a matter of free mind biology, I don;t care, and that he created this free mind. Not me. Many humans feel that longing to know God. I don't. So - why would I want or need to, when there is no actual directive that is not contradicted by another to follow? Which produces this fact: God will know what I think, if God be; this is my truth, even if I am smirking happily to myself about it being so.

    Smirking that the selection method of how I should know how to differentiate (amid the logic that the practical historical "how to worship" derives mainly from geography and sociology), and so, as an easy to find absolute knowledge, simply does not nor ever has, existed; and as such, has not been shown to me by God. So, how (and why, which I don't know either) can God reasonably expect anything of me in the way of worship? God is smart enough to know that. He must also know that I am only using the sense he gave me to understand this.

    Where's the beef?
     
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  18. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. taosjohn

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    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
  20. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I wonder....:eek:

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    FANGS FROM THE DARK
    Disturbing pictures of ‘shapeshifter’ revealed after farmer spots man who ‘got powers from aliens morphing into beast’
    Many were skeptical about the existence of the creature, even with a photo being taken

    • Updated: 12:36 ET, Nov 29 2023
    It's from the US Sun so it's reliable reporting! ;)
     
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  21. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Understand. I'll post snippets if you are interested in his dating life. But I put it here more to roll my eyes at the WaPo.
     
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  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Trust me...not missing anything. Garbage article.
     
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  23. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Clara Peller to the rescue! :thumbsup:

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  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Yet she's still there mumbling along & Mehdi Hasan gets the boot

     
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  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I do it out of morbid curiosity to see how different hosts treat him. As Mrs. Alan Greenspan and a DC lifer, I expected nothing less from Andrea. She is putrid at this point even on "The Radical Left's" TV station
     
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