Revs News 11/17

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  1. Coach_Barry

    Coach_Barry Member

    Aug 18, 2001
    Taunton, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Revolution veterans left open By Frank Dell'Apa, Globe Staff

    Seven Revs feel draftBy Gus Martins, Boston Herald

    From the Globe...
    "The Revolution will have the fifth choice in the MLS superdraft, scheduled for Jan. 14. . . ."

    I thought the draft order was decided on the regular season record, giving us the #4 pick.
     
  2. Jeremy Goodwin

    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The order is determined by the playoff record for teams making the playoffs, and their respective league record based on where they fell out in the playoffs.

    I think the natural order is (but there are certainly trades in effect):

    01. ReAL
    02. Chivas
    03. Dallas
    04. Chicago
    05. San Jose
    06. Metros
    07. Colorado
    08. Columbus
    09. Revs
    10. Gals
    11. Wizards
    12. DC
     
  3. Coach_Barry

    Coach_Barry Member

    Aug 18, 2001
    Taunton, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Though I could not find the Superdraft rules on MLSNet (big surprise), after further thought I think I remember it going something like this:

    1. Didn't make the playoffs
    2. Didn't make the playoffs
    3. Next worse regular season record
    4. "
    5. "
    6. "
    7. "
    8. "
    9. Lost in MLS Cup
    10. Won MLS Cup

    Of course this year there will be 2 expansion teams taking spots #1 and #2 and bumping everyone else down 2 spots.

    So, the natural order this year should be

    1. Real Salt Lake
    2. CD Chivas USA
    3. Chicago Fire
    4. FC Dallas
    5. New England
    6. San Jose
    7. Metrostars
    8. Colorado
    9. Los Angeles - traded to Chicago for 2004 #14 pick
    10. Columbus
    11. Kansas City
    12. DC United
     
  4. Jeremy Goodwin

    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hm, that would also make sense.
     
  5. RevsSoccerFan

    RevsSoccerFan New Member

    May 2, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. MrSangster

    MrSangster Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Duxbury,MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    JMM & Carlos could be resigned for lesser amounts? This indicates that both are at the end of their contract and could be signed, if willing, for lesser amounts. If we could keep both healthy and under $100,000 for the pair, that's a nice hunk out of the salary cap.
     
  7. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I think that's a tad optimistic on both counts (health and 100K$).

    I wouldn't mind seeing Llamosa back with a lower cap hit, but I doubt he's going to do it for $50K.

    As for JMM, I really don't think he can survive the banging anymore. To use up a roster spot on him is a high risk, at any price, IMO.
     
  8. Ultra Peanut

    Ultra Peanut New Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    Achewood
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. He's been in "give it up grampa" territory for a while now.
     
  9. Coach_Barry

    Coach_Barry Member

    Aug 18, 2001
    Taunton, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still think the natural order is determined this way:
    I have updated the 1st round order based on my research.

    1. Real Salt Lake
    2. CD Chivas USA
    3. Chicago Fire
    4. FC Dallas
    5. New England
    6. San Jose
    7. Metrostars - traded to LA for 2004 #11 pick
    8. Colorado
    9. Los Angeles - traded to Chicago for 2004 #14 pick
    10. Columbus
    11. Kansas City
    12. DC United - traded to MetroStars for rights to Moreno
     
  10. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    Does anyone know what we got from SJ for Chris Brown?
     
  11. brianzappa

    brianzappa Member

    Oct 21, 2003
    In a big country
  12. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    From the Vega article:

    "As a result, head coach Steve Nicol may be pressed into using a 3-5-2 formation next year -- which he employed some this season -- as opposed to the much-preferred 4-4-3."

    Playing a 4-4-3 might have helped smooth out the "rougher" sections of the season, if only we'd had 12 healthy players at the time...
     
  13. RevsGuy06

    RevsGuy06 Member

    Feb 5, 2001
    england 2.0
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    True, but Joe Max did get surgery done on the knee late in the season I believe, instead of just "waiting it out" like he did before. After comtemplating retirement before, the surgery could mean that he might want to give it one last shot next season, and if the knees still cant handle the knocks then clearly its time to hang 'em up unfortunately.

    I have no problem with re-signing him at a lower pay.
     
  14. Jeremy Goodwin

    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much lower are we talking about here?

    I'd buy that for a dollar, but I sure wouldn't for half his current salary.
     
  15. Sean Donahue

    Sean Donahue Member

    Aug 31, 2001
    Massachusetts
    With the new expanded rosters, if Moore would be willing to give it another shot for 50-70k, I'd take him, but for no more. I'd personally like to see him back if we could get him for cheap.
     
  16. Coach_Barry

    Coach_Barry Member

    Aug 18, 2001
    Taunton, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seeing how he was on the field 44% of the time available for the past 2 years, I would be willing to take him back with a large pay cut (a salary of about 50-70k sounds about right) and the understanding that he is no longer a starter but a "super sub" at best - last 30 minutes of a game.
     

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