Result: Winters

Discussion in 'Scotland' started by savan, Nov 7, 2004.

  1. savan

    savan New Member

    May 16, 2004
    Robbie Winters is doing great in Norway with Brann from Bergen!
    Today he scored when Brann took gold in the Norwegian Cup!
    Brann scored 3 goals in the first 13 minuetes of the match, and secured a 4-1 win (1 x Winters, 3 x Særthernes) over FC Lyn Oslo at Ullevaal Stadium!
    Why this guys isn't on the scottish national team is beyond me!!

    More pictures from the match:

    Charlie Miller also played for Brann.. He's from Scotland too, right?
  2. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    Berti capped something like 60 players. Yet he never picked guys like Robbie Winters or Paul Telfer at Southampton. I never understood why he would use so many players yet leave out a couple of consistant performers! It's good to hear Winters is doing well. He was always rather inconsistant over here.

    Charlie Miller started at Rangers, also played in England for Watford and then back here with Dundee Utd. Always talented but then again he was never very fit and was a fat bastard :D.
  3. savan

    savan New Member

    May 16, 2004
    Maybe it's about time Winters got a call up then? :cool:
    I think Winters enjoying his stay in Brann: ;)
  4. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    Pity Winters was shocking in a poor Norwegian league. Same with Miller. At least they are finally starting to adapt. Winters might deserve a chance if he continues to perform consistantly.
  5. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    If I was Scotland manager, I'd give him a go in a few friendlies. We're not blessed with good, consistent strikers at the moment, so where would the harm be?
  6. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    I think I'm right in saying he's scored 25 goals in 29 goals this season. Ok, some of these goals were against crappy teams but looking at some of the guys that have got a game in friendlies surely he deserves a chance?
  7. savan

    savan New Member

    May 16, 2004
    Okey..Sure the norwegian league isn't the best, and maybe the only huge thing coming out of it is Rosenborg. But still, Winters have shown good performances, and surely deserves a chance!
  8. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    I'd say the Norwegian league is of similar quality to the SPL. Alot of Winters' goals have been in the cup against smaller teams though. Still, if he's been playing well surely he deserves a chance. Lets face it, he can't be any worse than Kevin Kyle!
  9. savan

    savan New Member

    May 16, 2004
    Hm..Even though I haven't got a clue who that is.. :rolleyes: He can't possible make Scotland any worse then Bertie Vogts have done! ;)
  10. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    Kyle is improving a little but he's a example of the kind of player Berti would call up. He's at Sunderland and when they were in the Premiership he got a call up before he was even getting a game at club level. It just seemed to be the fact he was at a premiership club!

    Andy Gray, Peter Canero, Stephen Crainey, Paul Ritchie, Greame Murty, Paul Devlin, Brian Kerr, Kenny Arthur, Scott Gemmill, Jamie Smith, Craig Burley, Bob Malcolm, Allan Johnstone, Scott Dobie, Derek McInnes, Kevin McNaughton, Robbie Stockdale, Mark Stewart, Cummings, Gary O'Conner, Dougie Freedman, Richard Hughes - here is a list of just some of the players Berti capped, most because of the clubs they were at or becuse they had 1 or 2 good games, most we didn't see again, some I hadn't even heard of! A manager really should be able to tell which ones are any good without handing them all caps! Robbie Winters scores 25 goals in a season and he doesn't even get a chance! There are many more players I could name. Berti couldn't tell if players were any good, and he didn't have any tactical knowledge, i'm very relieved that he has gone :D
  11. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    Oh, and this is Kyle...

  12. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    Colin Cameron
    Russell Anderson
    Gary Naysmith
    Jackie McNamara
    Gary Holt
    Paul Dickov
    Stevie Crawford
    Kenny Miller
    Stephen Caldwell
    Paul Gallacher
    Scott Severin
    Steven Thompson
    Gary Caldwell
    Barry Ferguson
    James McFadden
    David Marshall
    Kevin Kyle
    Ian Murray
    Andy Webster
    Darren Fletcher
    Stephen Pearson
    Craig Gordon
    David McNamee
    Malky Mackay
    Nigel Quashie
    Lee McCulloch
    Andy Gray
    Peter Canero
    Stephen Crainey
    Paul Ritchie
    Greame Murty
    Paul Devlin
    Brian Kerr
    Kenny Arthur
    Scott Gemmill
    Jamie Smith
    Craig Burley
    Bob Malcolm
    Allan Johnstone
    Scott Dobie
    Derek McInnes
    Kevin McNaughton
    Robbie Stockdale
    Mark Stewart
    Gary O'Conner
    Dougie Freedman
    Richard Hughes
    Scott Shearer
    Jamie McAlister
    Stephen Hughes
    Neil McCann
    David Weir
    Lee Wilkie
    Don Hutchison
    Gavin Rae
    Graham Alexander
    Jonathon Gould
    Maurice Ross
    Christian Dailly
    Gary Teale
    Rab Douglas
    Paul Gallagher
    Paul Lambert
    Neil Alexander
    Steven Pressley
    Gareth Williams
    Neil Sullivan
    Callum Davidson

    I think these are all of Berti's 'boys', that's 71 players capped in 3 years! You'd think he could've found some space for Winters!
  13. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    Dominic Matteo

    There's another one!
  14. Bruiser

    Bruiser New Member

    Jun 1, 2004
    Sykkylven, Norway
    SK Brann Bergen
    Nat'l Team:
    Sæternes, not "Særthernes".

    Winters played well today. He's good enough for Scotland so he deserves a
    try. Maybe the new NT will give him a chance.
  15. markdickson

    markdickson New Member

    May 7, 2001
    Dumfries, Scotland
    I'm sure Telfer played once for Scotland (under Craig Brown) and decided to retire from international football! :rolleyes:
  16. DJ_RFC

    DJ_RFC New Member

    Jul 21, 2004
    Are you sure Bob Malcolm's played for Scotland? I think he's only played for the Scotland 'B' team but has never played in the first team

    That would be Warren Cummings, Dont know how he managed to get called up
  17. savan

    savan New Member

    May 16, 2004
    Quote Winters:
    Translate: - I hope to get a chance for the national team. It's silly that people in Scotland say that the level (of the Norwegian League) is not good. Norwegian teams beat scottish teams in the europe cup. Except for Celtic og Rangers, then the level in Norway is just as good as in Scotland.

  18. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    Malcolm didn't get off the bench against Iceland. So he isn't capped but he has been involved in squads. I think the same goes for Cummings. There are maybe 3 or 4 others in the list that weren't capped under berti, like Shearer and Arthur, who only made the bench. But it's still a staggering amount of players to have used in 3 years! Caps should be earned, these were given away. This also makes igoring Winters a weird decision.
  19. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    He would say that.:D
  20. savan

    savan New Member

    May 16, 2004
    Sure he would.. Maybe not in Norwegian.. :rolleyes: ;)

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